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Schiit Mani + Nagaoka MP-110 - Best Settings?

Discussion in 'New Gear - Performance' started by K-Shaps, Jan 18, 2018.

  1. K-Shaps

    K-Shaps New Member

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    Hi All,

    I recently upgraded my setup (new preamp and cart) and wanted to ask what the best settings are that I should have this set with. Getting the cart today so maybe I'm jumping the gun here...but with just the Mani added in something is definitely weird...

    My Setup
    Denon DP-300F
    Nagaoka MP-110 (Installing tonight! - currently have an Ortofon 2M Red)
    Schiit Mani
    Pioneer SX-750
    Mission MS-50

    I listened to about 15 LPs yesterday with the Mani hooked up with the 2M Red. No matter what, I can't get this to sound pleasing to me over speakers. Via headphones it sounds noticeably better to me, but via headphones or speakers the mids seem muffled. Is this a characteristic of the Mani or the 2M Red? I have been running the 2M Red for over a year now directly into my SX-750 with no external pre-amp (just using my TTs) and it sounded fine to me - could have been better hence this upgrade that I have read so much about. I thought introducing the Mani would bring improvements across the board. To me it feels like it didn't - the bass is punchier and the highs are crystal clear, but those mids sound ugly and held back.

    Again maybe I'm jumping the gun and after adding in the Nagaoka MP-110 tonight will resolve all of this. Thoughts?
     
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2018
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  2. CDinMB

    CDinMB AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    I hope you get the sound you want from your components. I bought a Mani as a cheap pre until I found what I wanted. I never got good sound from it. It hates the common ground of my Rega, works ok with the Thorens. My experience with Mani is getting rid of it in my system gave me the mid magic I had always read about. It pushed me to find a better pre sooner.

    I hope your experience is better.
     
  3. K-Shaps

    K-Shaps New Member

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    Yeah I ditched the Mani too after a weekend full of testing. All hype to my ears. It does certain things really well, but as a whole it took the "oomph" out of my records. Love the MP-110 so that is staying.
     
  4. mcgjohn

    mcgjohn Active Member

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    Have tried the mani on and off for a few months. Finally popped the hood to see what was inside. Parts can use a significant upgrade.

    The Mani will sound good only after you do some parts upgrades to it. You can also do same on your Pioneer phono stage, and really make it sing.

    would focus on the load resistor (use a vishay bulk foil for this) and any caps in the signal path....

    best of luck
     
  5. Spektre

    Spektre Brit alert

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    I've just picked up a Mani myself and as you say, treble and bass are great. Initially it sounded pretty harsh and and shut in but has gradually began to open up a little, just one of those components that may take time to get into its stride, mines still improving. In terms of gain I've found the 48db to sound a little better than 30db.
     
  6. Cubicub

    Cubicub New Member

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    I am a fan of the mani. Here are the settings I used on mine. I Also use a Nagaoka 110. Leave the mani on all the time, it will warm up the sound of the pre quicker. 10 hrs of break in. 5322B197-F6B3-4A7B-A8DA-696E6E91F964.jpeg
     

     

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