Sears, not the internet's fault

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  1. grillebilly

    grillebilly Empty Head Subscriber

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    Without pointing fingers at questionable business decisions, it's hard to see any retail business compete these days. Granted, Sears was the king of the "big box stores" and they had it covered long before Wallyworld came along. Times have changed, we want cheap and disposable. Sears used to stand for quality, or at least durable. Totally out of fashion for the masses anymore.
     

     

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  2. Champco

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    yuk....
     
  3. Champco

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    The biggie for me was being able to walk into a Sears, buy a Snowblower $500. which I dearly needed, without paying for it. I have a Craftsman MTD rider lawn tractor for the same reason. Easy credit. Took less then a year to pay it off but it got lots of use in the meantime.
     
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  4. Dave1384

    Dave1384 Stuck in the 70's

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    The Sears Hardware store near me closed.
    The Sears department store went from 3 floors to one.
    The K Mart next to Sears shut a year ago. That was shocking for it had been there forever.
    There was little help anywhere when I went looking for another vacuum cleaner around Thanksgiving.
    Sears, from what I remember reading, really did spearhead online shopping. I don't know why it failed though.
     
  5. Champco

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    What you are seeing is the lack of commission sales. Those things were tools of the high commission salesman. i was one and believe me all that stuff would have been working.
     
  6. Champco

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    That's another story. Levi's suck. I bought my last pair from them 10 or so years ago just before they moved their mfg off shore. Reason was the damn things stopped fitting. I have been buying wranglers ever since.
     

     

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  7. savatage1973

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    Sorry--gotta do it--the real question is, are the Levi's not fitting you, or are you not fitting into your Levi's??? :D
     
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  8. quaddriver

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    I had forgotten an analysis done in the 90's of sears..not only were they expansive in goods available - they also (mostly) invented consumer credit - aka store credit - via the infamous charge plate so america could shop and farm out the payments. A lot of downfall came when they started allowing unsecured credit - aka bank cards, their own discover, amex, visa et. Now they lost the threat of collections/repossession.

    I had always used craftsman tools, personally and in the shop, based on my elders adherence (in fact last summer I replaced a 16oz GP hammer that broke after 25 years - this hammer built houses, garages, sheds). IF craftsman tools are now junk (china does not HAVE to equal junk...but sadly it mostly does) then I am glad I am old with few years left cuz I am not paying the rape for (also) china made snapon and store brands..I just have to replace breakage and now that the shop is mostly dormant, chances are few
     
  9. quaddriver

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    OMG, shameless plug:

    a few years back - 2 - I got the best canister vac kenmore made. and it is nice but has a LOT of plastic. this past late fall the wife sees a dyson closeout of a $500 machine for 250 on hsn, limited amount so she buys it. we do a test. I vacuum the 'playroom/family room' until the 'dirt detected' light goes out on the kenmore. we bring in the dyson and it practically assembles a dirty dog in the hopper from what it finds in a few moments.

    Im sold.

    we have 1 jack russel and keep the (mostly) hardwood floors and carpet clean to avoid any doggy smell and keep a charcoal pre-filter in the hvac box. but this machine changes the game. dyuson sucks, in a good way.
     
  10. buglegirl

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    Funny stuff. I actually bought this shirt way long ago at of all places "Fry's"

    [​IMG]

    Anyhow Sears just lost their way. And by the time they realized it the nails were already mostly in the coffin.

    Frannie
     
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  11. Dave1384

    Dave1384 Stuck in the 70's

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    My boss swears by Dyson. But I don't like uprights.
    I've got 2 running Kenmores with 2 backups. Over the years they've gotten smaller . The canisters have never failed, it's the hoses that break.
     
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  12. damacman

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    Let's not forget about Sears moving their finance dept to Deleware so they could jack up interest rates on the Sears Card to 18%! When that happened, I cut up my Sears Card on the spot. Sears was my first credit card, I'm sure like many. Greed - plain and simple. Years of such decisions and here we are today.
     
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    Well I see things have gotten even worse ... https://www.consumeraffairs.com/retail/sears_credit.html
     
  14. Champco

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    They shrink:mad::rolleyes:
     
  15. toxcrusadr

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    dyson of course is ALL plastic from the looks of it, except for their tiny "digital motah". Time will tell if they hold up as well as they suck dirt. You could always depend on a heavy old Kenmore (or Eureka or whatever). Too bad we can't have both improved performance and the dependability we always had.
     
  16. ETLS

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    I have both the V-8 Animal (cordless) and the "Small-Ball" multi-floor. I also had an Oreck upright that iIthought did a damn good job on the carpet.

    Wrong.

    The Oreck left a ton of stuff in the carpet, that both Dysons pulled out. The cordless works almost as well as the corded.
     

     

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  17. savatage1973

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    That was certainly a turning point in retail sales--the big push to "regain consumer confidence" by going to non-commissioned sales staff and no-haggle pricing. It (very temporarily) made people believe that they were getting a "better deal" because the price is what it is--take it or leave it, and the person standing here in front of you makes no more or less money regardless of whether they "sell" something or not, BUT doesn't care whether you come back next week/month/year and buy something else. They just "do their time and make their dime", and go home.

    Now, all the consumer does is go look at something, and then pull up 100 different web-sites on their phone/computer to find which vendor has the cheapest/quickest delivery to their door--socks or an SUV--doesn't matter.
     
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  18. Poultrygeist

    Poultrygeist Lunatic Member

    In the early part of the 20th century Sears sold mail order homes. Which even today would be innovative. All materials were delivered to one's lot for DIY assembly ( instructions included ). I've seen a few still standing today in my town. They were bungalow style and quite charming.
     
  19. buglegirl

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    Amazon will have drones deliver em and sent a gaggle of robots to build em.

    Like the do-bees

    EDIT:: Groobee's



    Frannie
     
  20. KentTeffeteller

    KentTeffeteller Gimpus Stereophilus!

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    Exactly. I blame one key person and his ideas for the Sears demise. That blame lies on one Eddie Lampert. And I despise KKR, Bain Capital and other vulture capitalist firms. They destroy good companies.
     

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