Discussion in 'Speakers' started by GD70, Aug 6, 2017.
Everything about that video is just awesome Bill! Thanks for the smile
Lets see if this one sounds better, unfortunately no canine assistance
Yes it sound
Sounded very good. I like the pic showing the whole listening area, nice and cozy!
Thanks Glen, if you are ever in the area you are more than welcome to stop in for a listen.
If I'm in your area, I'd like that! Thanks for the invite!
Chris Stapleton through my recently acquired ADS 910's. Man I love the guitar in his songs! So smooth through the ADS domes.
Note: video and audio via Pixel 2 XL. I can't get the damn video off my phone and onto my Macbook Pro to sync with audio from the Zoom H1. So, a bit of SQ loss compared to the H1.
Musical Fidelity A5 Integrated
TEAC UD-501 DAC
Chromecast Audio streaming Spotify
Do you mean to say you have both the 2030's AND a set of 910's Matt! I truly believe none of those 910's or 2030's ever made it's way to Texas. What's a guy gotta do to get some of these down here I ask? ... Actually, memory serves me some guy in Houston was selling a pair for like $1500 a couple of months ago. Nice Matt. Thanks man.
Let's hear the same track on the 2030's now.
Yes, sir, I'm very fortunate to have a pair of each. Now, if I could just fine a pair of walnut 1590's, my speaker search would be complete. Most of the big ADS I find seem to be in MA or New England area. I've been fortunate to find some great ADS offerings in the Pittsburgh area, too. I agree it doesn't seem too many pair made it too far south or west, unfortunately.
Challenge accepted! Will do some rearranging tomorrow.
And turn it up!
Ahahah, ... Bless you for asking him to do that
I felt it was my duty!
I agree Matt, seems I see more ADS speakers of various models up around the North East and North West, with the latter having better prices ... for what ever reason the economy up there causes that. I was fortunate to get my 1230's here in Dallas but paid the top dollar price for them. I do see a lot of L810's and L700 series down here. As I type I find a set of 1290's for sale in the upper price range here simi locally. I work 6 and sometimes 7 days a week managing a Peanut Butter plant in the Dallas area and I can only imagine on my way to work Friday's and Saturdays driving by a garage sale and seeing a set of 910's sitting in the back looking for someone like me to own them.
There was a showdown this afternoon:
ADS L2030 and 910 Speakers by Audio Database, on Flickr
Ahahah ... MATT .. that's like my Holy Grail "Your Killing Me Smalls" Quote from The Sand Lot.
I just about always stop at yard/garage sales. You just never know what treasures are hidden in basements, attics and garages!
I wish I could. I recall the day's years ago I had the time to go to SA's and Garage Sales. I live near a few upscale Community Thrift shops as well, but I just don't get that time anymore. I'm on vacation this week and told the company don't bother calling ... I'm not at home. (untrue, as I'm finally finishing up my re-model 2 years in the process). I have speakers that need grills!!! ... Sorry, didn't mean to muck up this thread. Not complaining, Just two more years to retirement.
Well, folks, after all this time, we have one side of the story:
ADS L2030 - Musical Fidelity A5 integrated - Yamaha BD-S681 CD player - Chris Stapleton, Without Your Love, From A Room Volume 1 on CD
Forgive the jittery video. I'm working to dial in the right video settings on a new camera and something just isn't right with my settings. Audio recorded with the Zoom H1 stereo mic. Identical setup used for both recordings.
ADA 910's to follow. Youtube says it'll be another hour before it's ready.
And, finally, the ADS 910's! You may want to wait for 4k resolution to be available for best comparison. Otherwise, enjoy in HD for now.
So, the big question is "how do they compare?" The answer isn't a simple, well, X is better than Y because X is bigger and bigger is more betterer. Now size obviously does lend to the strengths of the L2030. The 910's simply can't compete with the dual 14" woofers in each cabinet. When I first got the 910's home, I hadn't listened to the L2030's for a couple weeks and I thought the bass was pretty damn impressive. And believe me, IT IS, it's tuneful, articulate and room filling. Absolutely splendid bass that is quite comparable to my old L1530's, and rightly so given the similar driver compliment of dual 10" woofers per cabinet. So while the bass of the 910's is more than adequate, once I fired up the L2030's, I remembered one of the things that make them so special. The bass just digs deeper and is more impactful. It's the kind of bass you can feel through the floor and in your chest. What makes it special to me is that it while it is both more plentiful and impactful, it's no less articulate. It doesn't muddy the mids or mask the highs. It is ever present in the room and in your body, but never in a manner that bloated or overbearing. This is the kind of bass I like.
The character of the midrange is very comparable between the two sets of speakers. It is soooooo smooth and easy to listen to for hours. I should mention here that I listened to the L2030's in "source line" mode which means all four midranges are working in unison. While both speakers share similar tonal qualities, the L2030's were a bit more immersive. There was greater depth to voices and instruments. The room takes on the voice of the speakers from front to back and side to side. The 910 midrange stood a little more forward and present in the room. Still the same wonderful lush quality, but it stood out more in front of the speakers and was more pointed.
High frequencies varied more substantially between the speakers. The L2030 high frequencies transitioned smoothly with the mids and decayed more slowly. This makes them ever so smooth. The 910's were more detailed and forward in their high frequency presentation. This isn't a bad thing. They're not bright or harsh and never fatiguing, the highs are just more pronounced. Now, this could very well be due to the Clarity Caps in the top end of the crossovers. I described it before as a little more sizzle than I'm used to hearing out of ADS speakers and I think that's an accurate description. This lends a little more clarity up top and highs that linger in the air a little longer.
Lastly, we get to imaging. This is a no contest. The L2030's image very well and the 910's simply don't do it better. This is expected. I certainly don't expect a non-mirror imaged pair of speakers to compete in this department. I will say that the 910's do create a central voice and the soundstage can extend beyond the periphery of the speakers. They just can't do it as clearly or defined as the L2030's. The L2030's are exceptional in this regard. Dire Straits Private Investigations is so much fun to listen to on either pair of speakers. There's a drum kick in the last 3 minutes that the 910's put outside the periphery of the speakers. The L2030's put it high right near the ceiling. It's impressive.
We all root for the underdog. It's human nature for most of us, I think. The 910's are an exceptional pair of speakers. Truly, they are, and this pair will remain in my household for a very long time. The L2030's just provide a more immersive, expansive and visceral listening experience and that's what makes them so special. Sitting in my listening chair, the L2030's allow me to hear the music, see the music, and feel the music. It doesn't get any better than that.
I said it once before @MATT0404 I will never ever tire of hearing your vids my friend. Just awesome fella.
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