Speaker Shopping - one man's experience with High End models

Discussion in 'The Cutting Edge' started by jblnut, Mar 15, 2017.

  1. jblnut

    jblnut Don't Overthink It Subscriber

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    Most, perhaps. All, certainly not. There is always a piece of vintage high-end gear that makes an appearance at our local NE AK gathering. I've seen some pretty crazy stuff there and I don't expect that trend to stop. There are plenty of folks watching the depreciation curve of their favorite pieces. You think no one here looks at Agon, HiFiDo, HiFIShark, etc ? Heck even our own BT has some very interesting gear and WTB threads.

    Need I remind you that you are in the Cutting Edge forum ? Please leave the normal (and tired) comments about AK'er buying profiles at the door.

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  2. botrytis

    botrytis Trying not to be a Small Speaker Hoarder Subscriber

    OH, come on. We have talked about this in the past. Not trying to demean anyone. So many on here are collectors of one brand or another. It is hard to collect EVERYTHING (I have tried and it doesn't work ;) ). I lived in the NE and been to it, forget? I remember Beemer's house (what a Museum). He had some amazing items.

    Like I said, more for the rest of us :beatnik:
     
  3. Sandstrom

    Sandstrom Hazlewoodism Subscriber

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    I went to a pretty nice audio store not too long ago and was really impressed with the Totem Acoustics stuff. Amazing sound stage out of a modest size enclosure.
     
  4. botrytis

    botrytis Trying not to be a Small Speaker Hoarder Subscriber

    Also try Reference 3A - they also make great speakers and are also crossover-less. They design the drivers to use the natural roll off between the drivers to act as the crossover.
     
  5. theophile

    theophile Pheasant Plucker. Subscriber

    I just love speakers that utilise these methods. Getting rid of the crossover placed between the amp output and the drivers, is one of the biggest benefits of both full range single driver types and active crossover types.
     
  6. botrytis

    botrytis Trying not to be a Small Speaker Hoarder Subscriber

    They are hard to design and build. The drivers have to be matched so they are designed that way.
     

     

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  7. theophile

    theophile Pheasant Plucker. Subscriber

    My love of this type of speaker goes back to 1980 when I bought a pair of AR18s.
     
  8. theophile

    theophile Pheasant Plucker. Subscriber

    It is easy when speaker shopping to find high end models:

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  9. botrytis

    botrytis Trying not to be a Small Speaker Hoarder Subscriber


    If you go to a high end show, like AXPONA, this is what you really get.....

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  10. twiiii

    twiiii Addicted Member

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    You notice I was referring to Roger's Line arrays not the latest versions from Mac. Their tweeters are terrible and remind me of JBL's early ring radiators. The latest Mac speakers are all under woofered excepting the 2k and its barely acceptable.
     
  11. seminole54

    seminole54 AK Member Subscriber

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    jblnut

    Have gotten a chance to hear the Volti's in your travels? They might interest you based on your current speakers. Also agree you should try to hear the Aerial's if you haven't. They are built not that far from you in Wilmington, Ma and their signature dealer Audio Video Therapy is also reasonably close. Michael Kelly has just continued to evolve the designs from his ADS days with modern materials. The 7T has been on my radar for a while but I would have to buy blind as no dealer within many hundreds of miles.
     

     

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  12. rxonmymind

    rxonmymind AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    I appreciate the review. As much as I love vintage as you said speakers today have come a long way. One of my all time dream speakers has always been the Focal Utopia grands but in reality I will have to settle for the Focal Nova Utopias. I hope the dream and the actual sonics match expectations. You know how dreams go.

    I'll have a chance to check out a few high end system at the California audio show this weekend. I'll be going Friday.
     
  13. the_nines

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    Nice!
     
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  15. steve59

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    Bump, I'm going to get to hear the salon 2's this week! The gent that sold me my salon 1's upgraded to them and I need to hear what the hype is all about because the v1 is no slouch. I began with kef 105/3 for more than 20 years then kept em and bought a beautiful pair of VA Beethovens that were jaw dropping in their own right as long as I didn't play loud. When a pair of 107/2's in good condition came up I bought them hoping for the VA's transparency with the 105/3's slam...Well imho the biggest strides in speakers is tweeter resolution because even my salons can't reproduce the tones (sounds like blowing from different length straws) in becks 'lost cause' as clearly as the little beethovens and the kef's missed it completely. The S1 moves serious air and sometimes I wonder if some sounds can just get over powered with big speakers? My audition of the S2 will shed some light on it for me. Personally i'm hoping I can't hear a difference as the thought of moving the 240 lbs speakers out of my basement is gonna suck.
     
  16. jblnut

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    well..how was the new Salon ?

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  17. Hawkeye83

    Hawkeye83 AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Trying some Townshend Audio super tweeters to try to add some of that treble energy to my 107's. In my opinion, that's all they're missing. Will see how it goes next week! Yes, let's hear about the Salons!
     
  18. Ken Boyd

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    Bulls**t, I for one would love some of the high end stuff out there, but the prices are so out of range, the Salon Ultima 2's are $22,000 dollars a pair new, while even at half price your talking over 10 grand. I have seen some Everest for a bit over 20 grand, used and I think I would rather have a pair of them as I think they would go up in value more so than the Salon's.

    I think many people on AK would love the new high end stuff, but its way out of their price range. When they get down to say a grand or two grand then you will see them showing up here. Many of the more active posters here on AK are getting older, hell we will probably all be dead before we see the prices of the new stuff come down to the level that would make them common on AK. Hell by then who knows what the world will be like, it might go back in to the dark ages where we are scavaging thru dumps trying to find food with the world in the dark with no power for all we know.
     
  19. botrytis

    botrytis Trying not to be a Small Speaker Hoarder Subscriber

    You are one of the rare ones. Too many on this forum are too scared to go out and listen. I mean buying one of the big mid-fi's and having to recap and rebuild is not cheap. I am nowhere near the high end area. You don't have to spend that much coin to get the sound.
     
  20. steve59

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    I'm a bit confused at what I heard listening to the salon2's. They're a huge improvement over the salons right? To be fair the room was 20x20x20 with an all window wall on 1 side and open to most of the house everywhere else. The 2 j&l subs were most of what I heard and that be tweeter sounds like the real thing. I can safely say kef lovers will appreciate the salon 1 over the v2 just because of the mid-range. I still seem to be taken by the hype surrounding the salon 2's and found another local owner selling a pair that I'll be listening to Tuesday. Otoh I could take a leap of faith and grab a pair of 207/2's for under $10k. My R 107/2 still grace my living room and make movie night fun and any time a fellow audiophile comes over they make me play my 107's for them.
     

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