Spring is here and my Fisher 400 is almost done...

Kingfisher

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I still have to do the screen resistor mods. and get the MPX aligned. I also have to replace the dial lamps, order a new case and new quad of 7868's. This is all the work I've done so far:


-Replaced film capacitors in the phono section with .022uf/630v Illinois

-Replaced film capacitors in voltage amp and tone control with .047uf/630v Illinois

-Replaced 1uf electrolytic capacitor in multiplexer with 1uf Nichicon film capacitor

-Replaced 8uf capacitor in the detector circuit with 8uf/50v Sprague Atoms electrolytic

-Replaced .1uf capacitor in detector circuit with .1uf/250v C-D DME

-Replaced 1800pf disc capacitor that I accidentally damaged with Vishay 1800pf ceramic disc

-Replaced .047uf capacitors in the output stage with .068uf/630v C-D DME’s.

-Replaced 330k ohm grid return resistors with 220k ohm

-Replaced yellow ground wires on 7868 cathodes with 10 ohm resistors

-Replaced 3-section can with 2 Nichicon 47uf/315v capacitors and 1 Nichicon 220uf/350v

-Replaced 4-section can and 1-section insulated can with Hayseed Hamfest equivalents

-Replaced 1w/1200 ohm resistor on 4-section can (it repeatedly tested at around 2150 ohms on 2 different DMM’s)

-Replaced 2 diodes with 3A MCC Ultra-Fast diodes

-Replaced 1000uf/35v dual capacitor with 2 Nichicon 1800uf/50v capacitors

-Replaced 100uf/35v capacitor with Sprague Atoms 100uf/50v electrolytic

-Replaced selenium rectifier with 8A/400v silicon bridge

-Replaced black .01uf “Gen. Inst.” film capacitors (the death cap with a Vishay safety cap)

-Added CL-80 thermistor between power transformer primary and the main power switch

-Cleaned connectors on back of chassis with bristle brush and Deoxit

-Bathed the tube sockets with Deoxit

-Cleaned front controls with Deoxit D5 and F5 (Faderlube)

-Passed dim bulb test

-Tested all functions on front panel
 

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I'm still checking voltages too (on a variac set to 117vac). This is a partial collection of readings I made:


Bias voltage @ neg. terminal of bias cap -24v -25.66v

Insulated can capacitor (C76) pos. 395v 398.1v

8uf neg. -12v 0v


7868
Pins Voltage v13 v14 v15 v16


1&7 345v 360.2v 360.2v 360.0v 360.6v

2&6 -15v -18.15v -18.15v -18.02v -18.08v

9 395v 397.7v 397.9v 397.2v 396.7v

12AX7
Pins Voltage v11 v12


1 292v 301.3v 284.8v

2&6 135v 138.6v 149.5v

3 136v 142v 152.6v

8 1v 1.13v 1.13v

12AX7 v10

1 160v 169.6v

3 1v 1.04v

6 160v 168.7v

8 1v 1.05v

12AX7 v9

1 160v 164v

3 -1v 1.11v

6 160v 165.9v

8 -1v 1.08v
 
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King -- On V9, the required voltage on pins 3&8 would both be positive, as opposed to negative as shown. Also, voltage across the 8 uF cap in the ratio detector circuit will only be present when the FM tuner section is operating. Sounds like you're real close to home on this one -- congrats!

Dave
 
King; On the 3 section cap 50/50/200. At first glance I wanted to ask about having the CAN hooked up but after blowing up the picture I see a Terminal strip under the 330ohm resistors. WHEW!!! Close one. Damned camoflague.

Larry
 
You have done pretty much the full boat on the re-furb. What 7868's are you getting?
 
King -- On V9, the required voltage on pins 3&8 would both be positive, as opposed to negative as shown. Also, voltage across the 8 uF cap in the ratio detector circuit will only be present when the FM tuner section is operating. Sounds like you're real close to home on this one -- congrats!

Dave
AHA! I was wondering why I was getting some funky readings on tubes v4 and v5 (6HS6 and 6AU6) and 0v on the 8uf. I had the selector switch in AUX mode. Dave, on tube v9 I wrote it down how it is shown in the 20000-29999 Fisher 400 schematic. I suspected it was wrong. Glad to read your confirmation.
 
King; On the 3 section cap 50/50/200. At first glance I wanted to ask about having the CAN hooked up but after blowing up the picture I see a Terminal strip under the 330ohm resistors. WHEW!!! Close one. Damned camoflague.

Larry
:rflmao:Yeah, I try to use terminal strips whenever possible when replacing multi-section cans. I also snipped off the old lugs on the original can. There was a 1-lug terminal strip that originally connected the two 330 ohm resistors that I had to remove in order to fit the big 220uf cap in its place. That strip got reemployed for the CL-80/power lead connection near the fuse holder at the back of the chassis. Here is a side view of the 3-section terminal strip:
 

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The rest of the voltages 9except from the MPX)

4-section can positives
A -20uf-205v 216.5v
B 40uf-286v 299.5v
C 40uf-320v 338.4v
D 40uf-345v 364.4v

3-section can positives
A 50uf-166v 184.6v
B 50uf-182v 193.2v
C 200uf-198v 201.5v

12AX7 v8
Pin 1 100v 91.7v
Pin 2 -0.4v -0.61v
Pin 6 85v 99.7v

12AX7 v7
Pin 1 85v 102.9v
Pin 6 100v 89.4v
Pin 7 -0.4v -0.36v

6AU6 v5
Pin 1 -0.7v -0.184v
Pin 5 158v 167.6v
Pin 6 77v 83.9v

6HS6 v4
Pin 5 158v 165.5v
Pin 6 82v 106v
Pin 7 1v 1.03v

6AU6 v3
Pin 5 158v 179.1v
Pin 6 110v 125.3v
Pin 7 1.2v 1.29v

The 8uf cap reading was not 0v as I originally posted but -15.9v
 
Oh BOY! I remember a couple years ago his (mcIntosh cabinets) were about $240.00 for a 400. But Almost $400??? You gotta have Deep pockets for that now!
 
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