The Audio Kitty/Bryston Mini-T Alert!

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  1. musichal

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    I like to save up earmarked audio funds for something nice. From meager disability income, I am yet able to save a goodly amount each month, most of which goes into a savings account, but beyond that I am still able to build up a nice amount over time which goes into my audio kitty, since we are debt-free. And since my needs are few.

    Lately, I've had a remarkable run at the local casino poker table that has built it up more quickly 5han I anticipated. And audio is my only hobby. I have speakers on the brain.

    Someone in North Carolina has a nice pair of ADS 1290 for sale at a friendly price, and if they were nearby they'd be at my house now. However, I greatly prefer something new because even a recap is a problem for me these days with a large, heavy speaker. Besides, the list of audio projects here will already have Christine and I very busy for awhile after she retires in a few weeks.

    I need a new pair of speakers less than I do another hole in my head, but this isn't about need - it's merely about playing with toys.

    Now I've already ruminated about this in AKer Judas Priest's new speaker thread, but decided to start my own in an effort to seek opinion/comments.

    I've wanted panel-type speakers for years, and have been thinking of the Maggie 1.7i model. However, placement would only allow two feet between the speaker and the wall behind it, leaving less than three feet to the walls either side, with only five feet of separation between L&R speakers. The slim Silver 6 do very well with this placement, allowing more separation between them and I fear the Maggies might find it too compromised, too cramped, leaving me bereft of any real upgrade sonically. My seat is a good twelve feet away.

    Furthermore, if I tried the Magnepan, and find them wanting due to these constraints, I'd still have very similar placement issues for use in the bedroom. Furthermore, while I feel certain the Levinson in the den would drive them, no sweat, I feel it likely that the Yamaha A-S500 would not, and I don't want to replace it because it has other features I want to keep. If a speaker supplants the Silver 6, I feel confident the Yamaha would do a nice job with them back there.

    On top of that, the 1.7i would be too tall to fit my décor.

    Which leads me to another speaker that caught my attention when I chose the MAs - Bryston's Mini-T.

    Well-heeled audio enthusiasts refer to the Mini-T as an affordable, high-end entry-level sort of model. I understand what they mean, but to me they are quite expensive. Good reviews, good specs, able to do SPLs higher than I'd ever listen. Small three-way model, and I find the size appealing because I like to place my main speakers atop powered subwoofers.

    No chance I'd ever get to hear them before buying, and few here (if anyone) seems to have heard them. And it would be a month, maybe two, before I could buy those, depleting the kitty entirely.

    I've also found the LS-50 alluring - at least for the bedroom. I'm not convinced they'd displace the MA Silver 6 on the main rig, and I want something that has a shot at that.

    Those ADS are looking better by the minute. I wouldn't be able to put them atop subs, but they may not need them anyway, or I could place them to the sides. Moot point, though. Too far away.

    And I don't need any potential projects, either.

    And yet one other speaker I've found attractive is the Silver 100 bookshelf model, for the bedroom. A largish (by current standards) two-way with an eight-inch woofer priced similar to the LS-50. Sexiest-looking tweeter extant, imo.

    Given all these placement issues, and assuming new speakers only, what would you consider? No vintage models, please, unless you know of an excellent, fully restored specimen near OKC. Let's say three grand. Or would you simply keep saving and issue a BOLO?

    Or since I like the 6 so much in this room, just upgrade the bedroom speakers?

    I've owned many, many Klipsch models (and liked them) but this is about trying something different, so don't rec them. Which gives me pause concerning the Silver 100. I saw someone offering the LS-50, but I could buy new for his ask on the used ones by the time shipping is added on, and during the recent holiday sales, less.

    I was never a big JBL fan, but I really only heard a few models, and not their better ones, either. And that back in the 70s.

    Decisions, decisions...
     
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  2. sanford12

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    I'd give a look at the new B&W's. They have some very appealing but very expensive speakers that have great reviews. They have a set of 5 grand bookshelves I'd like to listen to. I'd never buy them but I'd sure like to listen.
    They have them at best buy/ Magnolia which may be convenient. They also carry Martin Logan
     
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    From what I've read you really wont need a sub with the Mini T's.
    I know I could easily live w/o a sub w/that sorta bass response.

    And this comment was also very telling:
    http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/bryston-mini-t-loudspeaker/

    Excellent off axis performance is also a nice plus with these too.

    I dunno,,,if I had the money I'd be "all in" on a pair of those...
    One of the few new speakers that I can say that about.

    JM2¢

    Bret P.
     
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    You really need to get some dipoles.

    Will they be difficult in your space? Obviously. But worth while.
     
  6. crn3371

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    I know you like the MA 6’s, but I’ve always felt that you needed something a little nicer to pair up with the 585.
     
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  7. Mister Pig

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    The audio kitty:

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    Cheers
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  8. sqlsavior

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    IMO, you should BOLO for some 'stats.

    :smoke:
     
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    Hal, get some Martin Logan ESL or even some older MLs that might get posted on CL.

    Trust me don't trip on your space these will bring the whole room alive.
     
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    Inspiration! Thanks.

    Sorry, but I have no suggestions for you.
     
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    For instance I don't have great placement but lets listen to a pair of old Sequel IIs and a pair of ADS 1230s. Both recorded with my phone and walking around in the space.



     
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  12. musichal

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    A very good friend had a pair of ML Aerius years ago, with which I spent hundreds of hours listening enjoyment. There was a lot to love about them, except for the dynamic cone bass which I never thought integrated well with the mids/HF stat panel. I've seen other people who've come to the same conclusion, greatly preferring larger, full-range stat designs. Not saying we are right, just the usual sort of preferential differences among music-loving gear-heads.

    ALERT!! Bryston Mini-T To Ship Out For Me Tomorrow
     
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    So, are the Bryston’s replacing the 6’s? The mini-T’s were on my short list (ended up with LS50’s). What reviews there are of the Bryston’s seem to be positive, the only knocks being their pedestrian looks.
     
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    That is the idea. By all accounts it has the right stuff to do so, even though half the size of the 6. If that proves out, then the Silver 6, which I do love, will be a great upgrade for the bedroom system. And it needs to turn out that way because the Yamaha A-S500 integrated amp in the bedroom won't handle the demands of the 4 ohm Bryston which, furthermore, has a phase angle adding to the demand. It will benefit from the power capability of the No. 585.

    If the 6 retains its place on the main rig, then I'd have to upgrade the bedroom amp, and that isn't the plan.
     
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    Interested in your opinion on the Bryston’s. While not a 585, I’ve got the new Anthem STR integrated and feel that it deserves better then my current KEF R300’s.
     
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    I started a thread in the New Gear - Performance sub-forum where I will be posting comments/reports and such once they arrive:

    http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/watch-this-space.853489/
     

     

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    So, if I remember right. You had your Silver 6 on top of your subs. Is that where the new speaker start out?
    Congrats on new speakers.
     
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    Understand you really want the Maggie’s but the speakers have to fit the room. If I could not set them the way the manufacturer recommended I would not get them. That’s just me.
     
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    One could always put some thick absorption on the wall behind them. My first thought was outdoor lounge cushions! :rolleyes: You would still get the coherent wave launch, and the lessening of room modes that dipoles provide, but may sacrifice some image depth. When I recommended 'stats, I was thinking either models with the rear wave attenuated, like the Quad ESL (57s), which were built to be compatible with small British living spaces, or that you would become so enamored with them that you would pull them out further, and damn the consequences. ;)
     
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    Yes, you are correct, and the 6 really sit too high, but these will be about the perfect height atop subs.


    If I learned anything from buying the Klipschorns, it was that the speaker has to fit the room... and me, too.


    That simply is out of the question. For me, for my wife, and for my guests. I just simply don't have the space, and lifestyle issues are important to me, too. Traffic flow, furniture placement, décor, etc. I don't live in a McMansion, just a typical 1700 sq ft ranch.

    I spent 6 months with a loaned pair of Quad ESL 63 years ago and loved many things about them, but they won't do bass or loud as I need a speaker to do sometimes, but you do make a valid point re space. Oh, and don't think that I didn't consider the idea for months.
     
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