asynchronousman
Super Member
silverpioneer and Orion's book don't seem to have anything about this...has anybody ever dealt with it? I'm gonna get it come hell or Roger Waters, but amp power and where to get the speaker adapters would be nice...
the mysterious SX-6000...calling Lt. Columbo...
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mg196
Johnny Thunders - LAMF
Hey Asynch,
I was doin' a little hunting for you this morning and found a company which sells speaker-plug adapters: http://www.oaktreeent.com/Pioneer_Speaker_Plugs_Jacks_Adaptors.htm
Hope that helps! Nothing on the Tuner Info Ctr or AA, unfortunately.
I was doin' a little hunting for you this morning and found a company which sells speaker-plug adapters: http://www.oaktreeent.com/Pioneer_Speaker_Plugs_Jacks_Adaptors.htm
Hope that helps! Nothing on the Tuner Info Ctr or AA, unfortunately.
brainsmasher
Mid-Fi Madman
I had one of these sx 6000's a while back and it was a capable receiver. I think it was around 35 watts per. very clean looking and decent sounding. I am not a real technical guy so I cannot say that the circut had design flaws and it was just a fire hazard waiting to happen. But I can say that for your 36 bucks you could do worse. It sounds pretty good but do not expect room shaking capabilities or breathtaking soundstaging, it is very good looking in its own way not the standard silver pioneer. Had I known your interest I would have paid closer attention to it. So I say get it but I also never say pass it up.
asynchronousman
Super Member
Well, I'm NOT paying 26+ for plugs if they sell on eBay for $15 (RARE INDEED).
That's a powerful dynamo for that period at 36 watts...1 dollar a watt...I will be for finding the ca$h pronto! :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :thmbsp:
That's a powerful dynamo for that period at 36 watts...1 dollar a watt...I will be for finding the ca$h pronto! :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :thmbsp:
bob toepfer at www.vintageelectronics.com sells the plugs for i think like 9 or 10 bux the pair.
shrinkboy
shrinkboy
Good stuff under appreciated!!!
I have the QX 8000 Quad. This whole series is underrated, unrecognized and ignored by most. Worked on one back in 1973 and pretty much forgot about them until last year and bought two. End up with two fully running, a unit with noisy channels (2) and a parts unit.
What I found is the FM and AM sections are very good. I run on in my bedroom and it really sound great. The 8000 is rated at 20 watts per channel. Your is around 15 per channel times four. Dont toss it for low power. I run my 8000 through two JBL L100's and a pair of AR 4X's on the back and have pretty of power. The JBL's are designed to run on more power but work well here. I still cant get over the sound thsi series puts out. I ran a newer QX 949 from 1997 to last year and I liked the 949 but the older and lower powered 8000 sounded better to me. The 949 is rated a 40 watts per channel times four. I also ran a Pioneer SX 850 rated at 65 watt, a two channel receiver. These a favorite around here but more of a rock and roll receiver. Sold off my minty 850 too. The 8000 rules, in both bedrooms.
If in good shape the 6000 is a real nice unit. Good electronics. My LPs sing on the 8000. Yours has on phono input? Even my CDs sound good here. The FM was weak on the tuner section and I took a clean paint brush and ran it through the tuner condenser and got the FM working perfectly. I am one of the few that runs an antenna around here (southeast NY) and it pulls lots of stations. A real keeper.
You can get the plugs from vintage-electronics.net--nice people
or from Pioneer direct. The only pain in the **s thing on the receiver. Try having four of them around that take that plug. Gave away a PIoneer 1000 receiver to a friend and guess what? It uses that plug. Oh well lost two there. Enjoy the 6000. It wont dissappoint you.
Eric
I have the QX 8000 Quad. This whole series is underrated, unrecognized and ignored by most. Worked on one back in 1973 and pretty much forgot about them until last year and bought two. End up with two fully running, a unit with noisy channels (2) and a parts unit.
What I found is the FM and AM sections are very good. I run on in my bedroom and it really sound great. The 8000 is rated at 20 watts per channel. Your is around 15 per channel times four. Dont toss it for low power. I run my 8000 through two JBL L100's and a pair of AR 4X's on the back and have pretty of power. The JBL's are designed to run on more power but work well here. I still cant get over the sound thsi series puts out. I ran a newer QX 949 from 1997 to last year and I liked the 949 but the older and lower powered 8000 sounded better to me. The 949 is rated a 40 watts per channel times four. I also ran a Pioneer SX 850 rated at 65 watt, a two channel receiver. These a favorite around here but more of a rock and roll receiver. Sold off my minty 850 too. The 8000 rules, in both bedrooms.
If in good shape the 6000 is a real nice unit. Good electronics. My LPs sing on the 8000. Yours has on phono input? Even my CDs sound good here. The FM was weak on the tuner section and I took a clean paint brush and ran it through the tuner condenser and got the FM working perfectly. I am one of the few that runs an antenna around here (southeast NY) and it pulls lots of stations. A real keeper.
You can get the plugs from vintage-electronics.net--nice people
or from Pioneer direct. The only pain in the **s thing on the receiver. Try having four of them around that take that plug. Gave away a PIoneer 1000 receiver to a friend and guess what? It uses that plug. Oh well lost two there. Enjoy the 6000. It wont dissappoint you.Eric
asynchronousman
Super Member
OK but you are jumping the gun a little...
It's still there and maybe I'll get the money to do it tomorrow. You are right that the adapters are throwing people off. The kid at the store knows I want it and is begging me (Go talk to Jennie, I've seen the way you look at her) because he knows what I want.
All the stuff I described is still there, the JVC receiver and Yamaha changer are a 60 dollar set that for whatever reason is coupled with a pair of cheap speaks from an 80s Maggie plastic combo set. Oh well, heard the King got laughed off the Opry or something before he became THE KING :thmbsp:
It's still there and maybe I'll get the money to do it tomorrow. You are right that the adapters are throwing people off. The kid at the store knows I want it and is begging me (Go talk to Jennie, I've seen the way you look at her) because he knows what I want.
All the stuff I described is still there, the JVC receiver and Yamaha changer are a 60 dollar set that for whatever reason is coupled with a pair of cheap speaks from an 80s Maggie plastic combo set. Oh well, heard the King got laughed off the Opry or something before he became THE KING :thmbsp:
asynchronousman
Super Member
Arrrgh
Don't go to that URL! It's for sale and the owner is POPUP MAD and trying to get you tricked into downloading spyware or hijacking you. Took half a minute and careful thinking to get out of it!
http://www.vintage-electronics.net/ is the right one.
shrinkboy said:
Don't go to that URL! It's for sale and the owner is POPUP MAD and trying to get you tricked into downloading spyware or hijacking you. Took half a minute and careful thinking to get out of it!
http://www.vintage-electronics.net/ is the right one.
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B3Nut
tubes and spinny things!
If you're having popup and spyware/hijacking probelms, try Mozilla Firefox instead of Internet Exploder. I switched months ago and haven't looked back...IE isn't worth the headaches, even with Micro$oft's patch-of-the-month club...
http://www.mozilla.org/firefox
TP
http://www.mozilla.org/firefox
TP
asynchronousman
Super Member
No, I have AVG 6.0 Free, StartPage Guard (freeware to prevent home page changes) and Ad-Aware SE free...
What the solution IS is to verify your addresses BEFORE typing them in. That is why I went through all that. Jackals supposedly selling domains or wishing to install spy/adware/etc wait to pounce on unsuspecting people to type an incorrect address. One of me favorites in ...yahama.com or typing .coN, or .coM instead of .info, .org, .gov etc...
Knowing how to use control keys, control-alt-delete function keys rapidly and effectly and then clearing your temporary internet files completely and content.IE5's files if you garner a virus that your virus protection stops (whether it can delete them, quarentine or only isolate them from access). That solves almost ALL problems (I do the scan and it usually works 99.xx% of the time). Norton and McAfee suck, Panda can have problems internally and downloading definitions is sometimes troublesome. Others exist, AVG works well for me and it will have v.7 available next month (if you have 6.0 you will have to upgrade of it won't update anymore).
Any version of Netscape beyond 4.78 sucks. Mozilla=Netscape and therefore=AOL because NS is SO patterned after Moz. I'm solving the whole problem this weekend--the new unit uses 2000 Professional and so shall all afterward. And I look occasionally, but there are no new updates right now for 98SE (not supported except for some security issues MS deems important) and it keeps asking me to update NET framework 1.1 and the same Q file over and over (both are there and correctly installed). A registry problem that I may have licked by cleaning the invalid registry references with with IOLO System Mechanic (the only good thing I ever got from real.com).
Done this awhile and know what to do and how to troubleshoot. Thank you for the information. The best browser I know of from what older friends tell me is still PINE. Aw, for the bad old daze when 14.4 was cool but it took two daze to find good porn (did I say that? heeheehee) :lmao:
What the solution IS is to verify your addresses BEFORE typing them in. That is why I went through all that. Jackals supposedly selling domains or wishing to install spy/adware/etc wait to pounce on unsuspecting people to type an incorrect address. One of me favorites in ...yahama.com or typing .coN, or .coM instead of .info, .org, .gov etc...
Knowing how to use control keys, control-alt-delete function keys rapidly and effectly and then clearing your temporary internet files completely and content.IE5's files if you garner a virus that your virus protection stops (whether it can delete them, quarentine or only isolate them from access). That solves almost ALL problems (I do the scan and it usually works 99.xx% of the time). Norton and McAfee suck, Panda can have problems internally and downloading definitions is sometimes troublesome. Others exist, AVG works well for me and it will have v.7 available next month (if you have 6.0 you will have to upgrade of it won't update anymore).
Any version of Netscape beyond 4.78 sucks. Mozilla=Netscape and therefore=AOL because NS is SO patterned after Moz. I'm solving the whole problem this weekend--the new unit uses 2000 Professional and so shall all afterward. And I look occasionally, but there are no new updates right now for 98SE (not supported except for some security issues MS deems important) and it keeps asking me to update NET framework 1.1 and the same Q file over and over (both are there and correctly installed). A registry problem that I may have licked by cleaning the invalid registry references with with IOLO System Mechanic (the only good thing I ever got from real.com).
Done this awhile and know what to do and how to troubleshoot. Thank you for the information. The best browser I know of from what older friends tell me is still PINE. Aw, for the bad old daze when 14.4 was cool but it took two daze to find good porn (did I say that? heeheehee) :lmao:
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asynchronousman
Super Member
It's MINE! Now I need some help...
<DETAILZ>
Knobs are shells, and the aluminum covered part slips off the power and speaker selectors; it just slides around. all the knobs are filthy as to suggest a smoky environment. Regular Goo Gone doesn't work, but the BBQ version seems to and doesn't harm stuff.
Lights all light, but barely any sound from the headphone jacks... must the speaks be plugged in also?
Case is in very decent shape with a couple-three dings
Tuna works fine, but like I said no volume from headphones. Tuning feel is good, not jerky/herky/quirky.
Now some pix, but first I need two adapters when I get the rest of my sale-gotten gains...
*<WARNING>* FILTHY RADIO PICTURES~
<DETAILZ>
Knobs are shells, and the aluminum covered part slips off the power and speaker selectors; it just slides around. all the knobs are filthy as to suggest a smoky environment. Regular Goo Gone doesn't work, but the BBQ version seems to and doesn't harm stuff.
Lights all light, but barely any sound from the headphone jacks... must the speaks be plugged in also?
Case is in very decent shape with a couple-three dings
Tuna works fine, but like I said no volume from headphones. Tuning feel is good, not jerky/herky/quirky.
Now some pix, but first I need two adapters when I get the rest of my sale-gotten gains...
*<WARNING>* FILTHY RADIO PICTURES~
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dshoaf
That high voltage buzz
What 'cha got there....
is the Pioneer line that pre-dates the SX-626/727/828 line. These were sold in the early 70s and will have no more than about 35wpc. Don't remember the whole lineup for that lineage but this would have been in the middle of the line as I think there was up to an SX-8000.
It will have a large coupling cap on the amp outputs and *lots* of interstage electolytic coupling caps. Recommendations are to make sure that the power supply filter caps be checked and reformed or replaced, if possible, in addition to the normal cleaning of controls, etc.
Cheers,
David
is the Pioneer line that pre-dates the SX-626/727/828 line. These were sold in the early 70s and will have no more than about 35wpc. Don't remember the whole lineup for that lineage but this would have been in the middle of the line as I think there was up to an SX-8000.
It will have a large coupling cap on the amp outputs and *lots* of interstage electolytic coupling caps. Recommendations are to make sure that the power supply filter caps be checked and reformed or replaced, if possible, in addition to the normal cleaning of controls, etc.
Cheers,
David
asynchronousman
Super Member
Yes, all of that, BUT--
I have next-to-no headphone output. Am I supposed to have a speaker load before headphones work? I guess I will have to look for a manual.
I have next-to-no headphone output. Am I supposed to have a speaker load before headphones work? I guess I will have to look for a manual.
asynchronousman
Super Member
That unit has been relisted (use the link on the expired page)
It is still available and 20.00 less with no bids!
bolly said:
It is still available and 20.00 less with no bids!
asynchronousman
Super Member
dshoaf said:
I haven't managed to service my VTVM yet, but I'm getting there.
QX-6000 Looks like it needs a good cleanup
Saw your nudies of the 6000. First thing I would do is use a clean unused paint brush and vacumn out the dust. GENTLY work your way through it. The knob covers are no big deal. One of my QX 8000's did that too. I Superglued them togather. It was on the input selector. End of problem. You should drop the bottom panel and vac here too. Use "Deoxit" on the controls while you are in there. Do the volume,trerble,bass and the selector switches too. Do the speaker buttons to. They dont have to be on or off to run the head phones.
One problem two of fmy QX-8000 had was the FM only worked on the higher end from 96 MHz up. It too had lots of dust inside the tuner. DON'T use DEOXIT or any thing else here. I GENTLY ran a clean unused paint brush through the var tuner and then ran the tuner up and down from 88 to 108. Gradyually after repeating this the FM started working below 96. The two 8000's I had are still playing fine a year since I did this.
If you have any questions on it drop a line. I am not a tech but know a lot of basic skills and cleanup on these old quad Pioneers :thmbsp: Have fun, they respond well to TLC!
Eric
Saw your nudies of the 6000. First thing I would do is use a clean unused paint brush and vacumn out the dust. GENTLY work your way through it. The knob covers are no big deal. One of my QX 8000's did that too. I Superglued them togather. It was on the input selector. End of problem. You should drop the bottom panel and vac here too. Use "Deoxit" on the controls while you are in there. Do the volume,trerble,bass and the selector switches too. Do the speaker buttons to. They dont have to be on or off to run the head phones.
One problem two of fmy QX-8000 had was the FM only worked on the higher end from 96 MHz up. It too had lots of dust inside the tuner. DON'T use DEOXIT or any thing else here. I GENTLY ran a clean unused paint brush through the var tuner and then ran the tuner up and down from 88 to 108. Gradyually after repeating this the FM started working below 96. The two 8000's I had are still playing fine a year since I did this.
If you have any questions on it drop a line. I am not a tech but know a lot of basic skills and cleanup on these old quad Pioneers :thmbsp: Have fun, they respond well to TLC!
Eric
asynchronousman
Super Member
Yes that's good advice...this is an SX-6000 (2-channel) though and the entire tuner seems okay, but I have almost no audio and only higher frequencies from both headphones. I have two microphone inputs also, which I obviously have not tested. I clearly get static working the controls and at good volume levels too.
Another bad thing happened just after firing it up. The lights went out although I could still get static. I think I blew a fuse so I'll have to figure out the funny fuse cap.
Another bad thing happened just after firing it up. The lights went out although I could still get static. I think I blew a fuse so I'll have to figure out the funny fuse cap.
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asynchronousman
Super Member
Doofus alert
Somebody had pushed in both tape monitor buttons!
I still have no R channel in headphones 1 OR 2 and the only fuse is OK. The funny fuse holder is actually a voltage selector, meaning it's apparently good to go in many other countries too. Tuning on FM is fine. It is stronger than many others without an antenna and the AM section "looks" like it could have the bandwidth tweaked a little...
If I'm losing R in the phones, would I lose it in back also?
This is going to be a fun set!
Somebody had pushed in both tape monitor buttons!
I still have no R channel in headphones 1 OR 2 and the only fuse is OK. The funny fuse holder is actually a voltage selector, meaning it's apparently good to go in many other countries too. Tuning on FM is fine. It is stronger than many others without an antenna and the AM section "looks" like it could have the bandwidth tweaked a little...
If I'm losing R in the phones, would I lose it in back also?
This is going to be a fun set!
dshoaf
That high voltage buzz
Have you checked.....
the back of your receiver in the lower left hand corner? There's a set of pre-out/main-in jacks. Next to it is a small switch that effectively jumpers them together. I'll bet on one of 2 scenarios:
* The switch is all gunged (technical term) up with poor contact or
* Its been messed (another technical term) with or not connecting as it should
In either case, I'd take a small set of patch cords and jumper the pre/main jacks together just to be sure.
BTW, that one on eBay looks mighty well-kept from the outside. It was one of those pics that reminded me of this little ditty to check. My earlier comments still stand, however.
Cheers,
David
the back of your receiver in the lower left hand corner? There's a set of pre-out/main-in jacks. Next to it is a small switch that effectively jumpers them together. I'll bet on one of 2 scenarios:
* The switch is all gunged (technical term) up with poor contact or
* Its been messed (another technical term) with or not connecting as it should
In either case, I'd take a small set of patch cords and jumper the pre/main jacks together just to be sure.
BTW, that one on eBay looks mighty well-kept from the outside. It was one of those pics that reminded me of this little ditty to check. My earlier comments still stand, however.
Cheers,
David
