The Official *Technics SL-1200* Owners Club

Discussion in 'Turntables' started by quietcity, May 6, 2009.

  1. hugz

    hugz Well-Known Member

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    are you wanting to test the main bearing or the tonearm bearing?
    When my SL-1200's tonearm bearings were busted, the thing that made it very blatantly clear that I had a problem was to zero out the arm (make it float), turn off the antiskate, let the arm float over the tonearm rest and then blow on it ever-so-gently.

    With the busted arm it would get half way and then stop very abruptly (or even bounce suddenly). with a new arm now it glides beautifully to the centre of the platter
     

     

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  2. monkboughtlunch

    monkboughtlunch Super Member

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    RE: Lead in groove skip issue when using cue lever

    I have an SL-1210M5G with AT150MLX. It's dialed in for 1.5g tracking force. Anti-skate is also set to 1.5.

    The issue I'm having is if I use the cue lever to set the arm down on the lead in groove of the record, the stylus will often skip forward a few grooves. This only happens when setting down on the lead in groove. When setting down the arm with lever on the music portion of the record -- there is no skipping issue.

    Anyone experience this issue? What causes it and what is the fix?
     
  3. Bahamayellow

    Bahamayellow Well-Known Member

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    Hello is this at the beginning of the record or all lead grooves in a song. Thanks
     
  4. monkboughtlunch

    monkboughtlunch Super Member

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    Hi - to clarify, this is occuring when lowering the arm with cue lever on the "dead wax outer lip" at the beginning of the record. It then jumps forward a few grooves. If I set the arm down by hand on at the start of the record, it plays fine.
     
  5. monkboughtlunch

    monkboughtlunch Super Member

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    Also - does anyone own an M5G -- and an SL1200GR or SL1200G/GAE and done a sonic comparison? If so, what are quantifiable sonic differences between the new models and the M5G?
     
  6. Bahamayellow

    Bahamayellow Well-Known Member

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    Maybe try backing off on the anti skate a bit. Also I have noticed this on my M3D 1200 if I lower the queuing arm to quickly. It could probably use a good cleaning and silicon filled back in the lowering cylinder. I know the M5G has another adjustment screw on the tonearm . I have one a M5G also but never messed with it. I'm sure u checked to make sure the table is level as well.
     

     

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  7. eriathomas

    eriathomas Active Member

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    [​IMG]

    Finally grabbed the 1200 M3D today. Dust cover is cracked, but otherwise it is in good shape. Smells a bit smokey, any tips on getting rid of it? Also came with a Stanton 890SA. Not sure if it's worth keeping or not.
     
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  8. mprince

    mprince AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    I used a bunch of cleaners on mine, a solution of white vinegar and water usually is pretty effective at getting odors. Mine was so bad when I got it I partially disassembled it and left it in the garage for a few days to air out.
     
  9. eriathomas

    eriathomas Active Member

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    I'll give that a go. This one is bad, and worse I dropped it off and left it in my living room before I had to go to work. Now my house probably stinks.
     
  10. mprince

    mprince AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    You could also pick up some air freshener packets to put down near all of the electronics. I had to really scrub my mat to get the smell out too.
     
  11. eriathomas

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    What is the best way to clean the rubber mat? I'm always worried soap and water will harden it for some reason.
     

     

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  12. mprince

    mprince AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Dish soap and water worked for mine.
     
  13. eriathomas

    eriathomas Active Member

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    Awesome, thanks. Guess I know what I'll be doing all night. Too bad my hands are too damn shaky to mount my AT440mlb on it. I can do simpler ellipticals though.
     
  14. Bahamayellow

    Bahamayellow Well-Known Member

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    Nice looking table. I really like my M3d also. There were 2 in really good shape my only regret is I didn't buy both of them. My smokey infinitys aren't smelly anymore after 3 years.
     
  15. eriathomas

    eriathomas Active Member

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    Playing a record I don't care much about, and the stylus definitely needs replaced but I do like the sound of the stanton. Quite happy with my purchase. Now to decide if I should sell my HK, since I'm not the type who needs multiple tables.
     
  16. Happytalk

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    Hi all. Picked up an SL1200mk2 for super cheap. I've owned fantastic specimen of one of these for years and I found this new (to me) one for $160. For the most part, it looks like it is good shape. However, left channel is virtuaully non-existent. That I think I can figure out. But here's a curious issue, the little nub that rests on the cueing slide(?) broke off while in the possession of a previous owner. I don't really mind it, given the price, but I'm wondering if anyone has run into this, and if I need to replace the whole arm. Or if this did happen to you, did you use some sort of super strong glue?

    Also I really hope whatever bang caused this isn't also causing the left channel to be nearly silent...
     

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  17. mprince

    mprince AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    You can probably try to fix that with some epoxy, the most obvious alternative is a new arm if that doesn't work. On the left channel cutting out, start at the cartridge and work your way backwards. Make sure the cartridge is good, and check everything back from there. Headshell leads, bayonet pins, the connections at the tonearm PCB (requires some disassembly), and the RCA plugs. These are pretty simple tables, just need a plan when you get into it.

    Another quick check is to reverse the turntable RCA leads at your amp/preamp. If the cut-out moves from the left channel to the right, then the problem is in the turntable. If if doesn't, the problem is in your phono stage.
     
  18. Happytalk

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    Cool. Thanks a bunch.

    I'll try the epoxy. Any ideas which one may be up to task? I am not the handiest. I thought maybe the little housing part may have been replaceable. But I think that means messing with the baearings which is probably a no no and virtually impossible to get correct.

    I tried installing my working cartridge/headshell from my main sl1200mk2. Switched rca's as well. I think it's in
    the turntable. I'll clean the contact points that touch the headshell and go from there. Just need to get the last drops out of the deoxit can. I think, since it's an easier job, I'll just resolder the RCA's. Thanks for the tip regarding the PCB. Let's hope it's not that.
     
  19. eriathomas

    eriathomas Active Member

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    Smell is dwindling, and it's crazy dirty inside (opened it up to make sure no bugs or anything). Going to drop it off at my local shop tomorrow to get the AT440mlb installed, and get it serviced just in case. Can't wait to spin it. Going to grab a second headshell to mount the stanton on, once I get a new stylus.
     
  20. reidcc

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    A while back I changed cartridges on my M5G. I had been using a Denon DL-110- but wanted a change. I picked up a Hana EH, along with an Ortofon LH-4000 headshell. Even though the output of the Hana is 2.0 mv- I really needed to crank on the volume. I was completely blown away by the sound- separation was much better- more airy sound, and lot less intrusive ticks and pops.

    Unfortunately I haven't used it since May- as I also got me a Scout 1.1 with a 2M Black cartridge! I guess I gotta figure out setting up a system upstairs now.

    Chris
     
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