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And I did find another Chinese T-amp that did work like it should.. And sounds pretty good.
I'm also looking for a cheap T-amp. Could you please let us know the brand and model of yours?
And I did find another Chinese T-amp that did work like it should.. And sounds pretty good.
Wow..you have had bad listening experiences with All of Bose's products?:scratch2:
There's no denying that McIntosh makes quality gear and I don't think anyone bashes McIntosh gear as being junk but more so as being overpriced (new retail prices).
As far as Tag Heuer watches and Wolf kitchen appliances... that's a different story and I think those are 2 brands that produce items that are far inferior than people realize. As a chef, I've seen far too many Wolf appliances break down and the inferior build quality.HTML:In terms of Tag Heuer, when a watch brand has more quartz watches than automatic movements, no thanks. Also in terms of Tag Heuer, their prices have increased far faster than most other watch brands over the past 20 years and what was once a decent watch for a decent price is now a watch that has exceeded it's quality vs price ratio.
Joe Rosen would the one and only, but he's the high reigning troll of all things audio.There's no denying that McIntosh makes quality gear and I don't think anyone bashes McIntosh gear as being junk but more so as being overpriced (new retail prices).
As far as Tag Heuer watches and Wolf kitchen appliances... that's a different story and I think those are 2 brands that produce items that are far inferior than people realize. As a chef, I've seen far too many Wolf appliances break down and the inferior build quality. In terms of Tag Heuer, when a watch brand has more quartz watches than automatic movements, no thanks. Also in terms of Tag Heuer, their prices have increased far faster than most other watch brands over the past 20 years and what was once a decent watch for a decent price is now a watch that has exceeded it's quality vs price ratio.
When talking with experienced people in electronics, I learned alot of what Joe wrote at times was fibs an he will often contradict himself.Joe Rosen said:"Here was an amplifier, upon closer inspection, where the engineer(s) had stuck to the ratings of the components he was using with religious fervour, NOT ONE RATING IS EXCEEDED IN ANY COMPONENT IN THE AMPLIFIER! And you just don't see this kind of conservative engineering: That's right, not even in Marantz, and NOT even in McIntrash!..."
"...Like a McIntrash amplifier, they gave a WORSE sound here, and low midrange distortion isn't hard to achieve anyways"
" ...Who uses output transformers anyway? Only an IDIOT would even consider the thought of putting these audio 'BOMINATIONS on a pair of 63's and expect them to surive the outrageous capacitive swings or sound decent AT ALL! McIntosh is made in CHINA for all those would-be audiophiles with all-too-much money and nowehere to spend it but on fancy and otherwise unspectacular audio to impress their wine drinking neighbors..."
"McIntosh, OTOH, doesn't sound all that good! The preamps were terrific, like the C20 and C22. But the power amps were designed to give good measurements with their patented "Unity-Coupled" output stages. The price paid for the superior measurements obtained by using an easier-to-design OPT was that the output tubes need 4 times more voltage drive than other typical tube amps (Ultra-Linear, Tetrode or Triode output stages). McIntosh had to employ a "trick" to get those huge voltages. The earliest amps they made actually used a sound (and performance) degrading interstage driver transformer, which kind of throws the baby out with the bathwater. I mean, why have a better OPT if you need ANOTHER transformer in series before it which would just degrade the performance back to the point where you shouldn't even have bothered in the first place? So Sidney Corderman cooked up something called a "bootstrap" circuit, a highly non-linear thing that fools distortion analyzers and doesn't affect the (very wide) frequency response!
McIntosh fans are a very particular bunch, highly motivated by the "snob" appeal of their rich-man's gear, which I remember having the reputation of being the choice of Doctors and Lawyers, but not audiophiles or music lovers. Ouch!
McIntosh gear was badly overpriced, so they had to make it flashy. And I find it outright GAUDY, tacky in a well-made and well-finished kind of way...
McIntosh tube gear runs much cooler in the output stage than the competition. Along with the superior parts and build quality, reliability is outstanding for a piece of tube gear.
But if its reliability you want, you're buying SS anyways, so who cares about McIntosh tube gear!
Who did McIntosh compete with? I suppose, in the minds of their fans and marketing department, let's quote Mel Lastman of BadBoy Furniture: "NOOOOOOOBODY!"
But in reality?
Marantz might have been the biggest competitor, and QUAD, Leak & Fisher were certainly in the frame. Sherwood & H.H. Scott weren't too far behind, and Harman-Kardon became a competitor once they cooked up the Stuart Hegeman designed "Citation" series in the early 60's."
The Citation preamps are superb, I'm particularly fond of my Citation IV, which I consider the best sounding vintage preamp of them all! The Citation tuner, the IIIX, is also superb, and is the equal to the very best that Fisher (the FM-1000) or Scott (the 4310) could make. McIntosh tube tuners are very ordinary, not even as good as the 3 mentioned above. Only the 10B from Marantz comfortably trumps all the other tubed tuners, and it was insanely more expensive than the others, too! And still is...
I got into a bit of trouble on another forum for suggesting that as good as Hegeman's preamps and tuners are, his amplifiers are atrocious!
Unreliable, the Citation II has a (well-deserved) reputation for actually CATCHING ON FIRE!!!
It uses weird RF pentodes as driver tubes, tubes that have absolutely NO place in hi-fi equipment! AND Hegeman ran them above their maximum voltage ratings, with predictable consquences! Ditto the badly overbiased output stage (the manual tells you not to worry about "some plate glow" from the severe overbiasing at 100ma per 6550!).
The amp did have (surprise, surprise) great specs! But the sound?
Puerile!
Muddy, fuzzy, incredibly dull and opaque, mono, distorted...and that's when its working properly!
Bought a pair of Warfdale w70 back in the 70`s sounded muddy replaced woofer with Becker driver and tweeter with Phillips dome sounded better but
not as good as I would have liked .
Need to be driven with some low wattage tubes - Radio Craftsmen 500a or old Sony ss - receiver 6060, amp 1120.