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Tick problem getting' more serious!

Discussion in 'Sports & Outdoor Adventure' started by Quadman2, May 29, 2017.

  1. Quadman2

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    I tend to agree with you with the scant knowledge base that I can muster. Most sources believe that there is a short time period wherein the antibiotics can be effective in varying degrees, but after a certain arbitrary period, they can work against the detriment of the patient.

    As most meds agree, all immune systems are not the same, with the female being the more robust. This I learned even in HS bio! Drugs are meant to enhance recovery but often work against this goal.

    At this point in time, I feel that most advisors are flailing in the dark, trying this and than with most going with the standard procedures that have worked with some, and a few striking out with new methodologies if the former sees little or no progress. Most are a wait and see, but this is where there should be some JOINT effect taking place that allows researchers to tie into common bank of knowledge that would save a lot of time/effort for the practitioners who are plying their trade. This I believe should be gov't inspired!

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    Interestingly and relatively recently chemotherapy(cell killing poisons) is being used to "treat" arthritis, lupus, ms and an assortment of other autoimmune diseases:idea:
     
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    I wonder what they're aiming to kill:idea::idea:
     
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    Collateral damage?

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    Its very common for people to come to the US for treatment, I know many that do.
    Its also very common for people to travel state to state in the US for treatment. People have no Idea
     
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    Most sources have no Idea what they are talking about. They do not deal with them on a daily basis. theory proven to be false by patients/doctors including me
     
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    I figure we will have the answer to whether there is a problem with these critters in the next year. Then, more time to get the word out as to what they look like and the symptoms of being infected. After these two procedures are carried out, and funds are allocated for research...it will be three to four years down the road before research can start to deal with this disease...?

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    I just pulled three off me in the shower. Quick lil buggers.

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  10. c.coyle

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    My wife, an RN here in Pennsylvania, just saw her first case of babesiosis, a Lyme-like, tick-transmitted disease.
     
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    Thank God they aren't too prevalent up here...
     
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    I'm late to this thread, so I hope I'm not repeating what's already been said. I think you can greatly reduce the chances of picking up ticks with a simple combination of clothing, repellents, and situational awareness. Having a dog would seem to be another matter altogether. I remember coming out of the woods five or so years ago and encountering a guy picking ticks of his black lab. I stopped counting at 20!
     
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    You're pretty close to Maine/VermontMass/Conn...check some of the charts on board. It's just a matter ot time. A very short time!

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    New up date on the Lyme critters in my part of the world.

    Now the local municipal counsel is going after the Feds in an attempt to clear out tall grass from an habitat for wildlife and all other creatures that live there. The locals want to do the beach thingy and want to either irradiate or reduce the rick of ticks since they are prevalent in that area. No tall grass=no/less ticks, least that's what they feel. Goes with the territory, I guess? Another case of "We want to alter nature, cause we can". Gov't now has to measure what % of the ticks are really the Borillia (Lyme carrying ones).

    Same goes for the coyotes in this neck of the woods. Small dogs are being left out at night for food samples since the rabbit population has been pretty well depleted due to loss of environment in this coastal area due to urban development.

    Infestation of the Zoomer, at its worst creating another deadly infestation that crates havoc wherever found, eh? Another thread from another time, but politically charged!:rolleyes:


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  15. HarmanKardon

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    Thank you for starting this thread, Quadman2. I needed quite a long time to read the more than 150 replies but it was worth the effort. Lyme is not so much an issue here in deep South West Germany, but FSME (meningoencephalitis) is very much.
     
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    On the right you see the federal state of Bavaria, on the left the federal state of Baden-W├╝rttemberg, where I'm living. Four years ago I started a thread titeled "Friends I am pretty concerned", the topic was a dangerous tick bite.

    Now back to the topic...
     
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    The gov't has now made public that not only the Deer Tick is a potential killer, but that the other known as the Dog Tick also has the ability to carry dangerous pathogens. Up until now, there has been little regard for the latter critter to do damage, so they can now forget about determining what the % of black legged ones are out there. All have the ability to cause serious damage to animal or man.

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    There are plenty of other pathogens to go around in any vector-borne disease. Unfortunately. For Lyme these can, and usually do, include: babesiosis, anaplasmosis, ehrlichiosis, relapsing fever, tularemia, Rocky Mountain spotted fever (RMSF), and Bartonellosis.
     
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