Van Halen better with Roth or Hagar?

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Roth or Hagar

  1. Roth

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  2. Hagar

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    19.0%
  1. FidgetMaster

    FidgetMaster Active Member

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    Oh it's definitely probably noise mostly or it's the patterns and useless notation where it's not song stuff just really instrumentation lol
     
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  2. Natasha Bell

    Natasha Bell Well-Known Member

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    :rflmao::rflmao::rflmao::rflmao::rflmao::beerchug::beerchug::biggrin::hug:
     
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  3. danj

    danj modern primitive

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    Hager was the better singer and played a mean guitar. Dave started out good but blew out his voice and now is bloody awful sounding. The band generally had better hard material when Dave was frontman than with Sammy, although some of the Sammy-era songs are great. The current VH with Dave is bad, what with Dave's blown pipes and his abusive stage manner. The band has clearly seen better days.

    My idea of great hard rock is vintage Montrose with Sammy Hagar. That was a GREAT band.
     
  4. holyman772

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    IMO. This is the best of the best with Hagar.
     
  5. Ron13a

    Ron13a Revolver of Vinyl

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    I was a HUGE Van Halen fan. I LOVED them! I saw them live four times. Hagar twice, Cherone once and Roth once. To me it depends on my mood. I actually like Roth and Hagar eras almost equally. Hagar is far more talented than Roth, but those first six LPs are wonderful. My favorite Roth era song is Meanstreet. My favorite Hagar era song is 5150. Here comes an unpopular opinion, Cherone wrote better lyrics than either of them. His voice was "meh", but he could write! Read the lyrics to the songs on Van Halen III. From Afar is really cool. It's unfortunate that the record didn't have a chance. It was SOOO over produced with senseless layering of guitar tracks. Without You could have been a cool tune after scraping off the unnecessary layers. Oh well.
     
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  6. Harvestor

    Harvestor Super Member

    Depends on a particular memory that a particular song evokes.... And I can agree that it depends on the mood.... But I find myself liking both just depends where my mind is that at the time
     
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  7. UncleBingo

    UncleBingo AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Roth. Total used car salesman. Sammy was more the toothpaste rep ; )
     
  8. danj

    danj modern primitive

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    Well, that shows that Dave had a sense of humor.
     
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  9. Dave_1962

    Dave_1962 Lunatic Member

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    My eyes...
     
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  10. restorer-john

    restorer-john Addicted Member

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    I voted and looked. It seems pretty conclusive doesn't it?

    AKers have spoken.
     
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  11. 432HzBob

    432HzBob AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Both, but I listen to my Van Hagar albums 3 to 1 as much as the old David Lee stuff.
     
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  12. hopjohn

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    Probably my favorite band as a child. Fair Warning was my favorite album. As I grew older the people behind the music became equally important. Dave, Ed and to a lesser degree Al all showed there true colors as timed passed. Sammie and Mikey are the better human beings even if I prefer the older music personally. Sammie's involvement helped them appeal to the female audience and as a concert goer that certainly had its advantages.
     
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  13. Rockon1

    Rockon1 Well-Known Member

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    There is no doubt. Van Hagar isn't a remote second. Bob
     
  14. Natasha Bell

    Natasha Bell Well-Known Member

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    I agree with so much of that. For me, their very early stuff, I really didn't like as much. Not being a "mega-fan", my real initial exposure to Van Helen was with "1984". A dear friend of my father's, with whom and his children I spent a lot of time growing up, played it often. I guess if I really think about it, I probably got most of my interest in early-mid 1980s music from him as that is what was always played at this home (and often very loudly). He also introduced me to "5150". It was only much later, that I heard much of the rest of their material. For me, it still remains a toss-up in many ways, depending strictly on my mood. :music:
     
  15. Natasha Bell

    Natasha Bell Well-Known Member

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    My views exactly, in terms of those "behind the music" becoming more important. Being a girl myself, I am curious to why you believe that Haggar would be more appealing to a female audience than Roth? For me, looking back on them as they were in the 1980s, I am more drawn to Roth, than Haggar. Although in terms of personality, especially from what I have seen of their interactions with fans and the like, I like Haggar more. He just appears to be a much kinder, less self-absorbed person. This being said, I am not sure if that would have made any difference in terms of going to concerts. :)
     
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  16. hopjohn

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    I guess I'm speaking from my own personal experience. I wouldn't want to speak for your gender. My thoughts were that my girlfriend at the time was much more receptive to the Hagar albums and taking her to see that incarnation with songs like "When It's Love" put a twinkle in her eye in ways "Somebody Get Me a Doctor" did not.
     
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  17. zunde

    zunde Well-Known Member

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    I like the music from Hagar- era Van Halen more... but the party image of the band was better with Diamond Dave.
     
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  18. Natasha Bell

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    That certainly does explain things. Haggar is quite the showman, then and now. I am unfortunately too young to have seen them in their prime. :oops::( As I had mentioned somewhere before, what I wouldn't give to timewarp myself back to the mid-late 1980s, put on tini skirt, have the big hair, and go to one of these concerts :D
     
  19. Sutherland

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    Roth, SURE he sucks now but Van Halen I & II, come on, that's where they made their name
     
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  20. parvo

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    Sammy did it for me!
     
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