While lurking, reading and engaging with AK over the past month or two, I'm left with the impression that many (some?) on this forum believe that the sonic performance of some of the higher end vintage behomoth receivers (I have a Sansui G9000DB) competes favorably with some newer equipment at the mid-fi price point when it comes to amp/preamp performance. On the other hand, the consensus seems to break down a bit when addressing the relative quality of phono stage in the higher end Japanese late 70's behomoths when compared to modern mid-fi phono stages (e.g., Cambridge 540P/640P or even the integrated phono stage of the much loved Onkyo A-9555). I thought this thread may help distill out the views on this. I guess, for the point of this discussion, please limit views to MM (or high output MC) cartridge performance as that's what the phono stages of the vintage behomoths will support.