How about Genalex KT 66s in my ST 70. I have a quad of Tung Sol 34 Bs that I like a lot too. How do you like the JJ KT 77s? I've heard good things about them.
I'm using JJ's slim EL34 and used to have Shanguan 5881A on my Chinese-made amp.
I prefer slim El34 to fat El34 or beam tubes as it sounds tight compared to the rest in low frequency range.
I found the same thing.
I like the small EH El34's I'm running in my SE amp, compared to the JJ fat bottle EL34's they are definitely more tight as you say. I also have tried JJ 6CA7's and Shuguang KT66's. The KT66 are more mellow and rounded sounding but have more bass than the small bottle EL34's. The 6CA7's also sound more mellow to me. I always go back to the small EL34's :thmbsp:
I should probably say that this is mostly for rock music.
Glenn
the kt77's were real nice..but..:sigh:..i lost one of them.. the top of the tube was kinda like white and somewhat transparent..it will have to get replaced, I liked those..
I couldn't agree with you more. We share the same taste for sound. Fat bottle EL34(6CA7) are originally desingned for use in guitar amplifiers, I suppose. Btw, we should thank guitar players who consume tubes constantly, which makes tube prices always this cheap.
I just rolled JJ KT77's in. Previous to that had EH 6CA7 fat bottles in. Next will be Tung Sol 34 B's. Curious if anyone running the SED Black Sables and are they worth the $$
Hbar
EL-34 family tubes have a wide range of tone, there's probably more variation in tone between members of this family than any other power tube - so you can roll away and almost never find two exactly alike.
The 6CA7 is a beam power tube - EL-34s are pentodes. So a tonal difference shouldn't be a surprise. I have often heard the 6CA7 described as a "baby 6550" - an apt description since the 6550 is also a "beamie". Oh, BTW - KT (as in KT-77) stands for "kinkless tetrode".
On the JJ stuff - I'm getting ready to try another run of the KT-77 - BUT - to say they've improved over the older production is no big deal. The old ones were SO bad anything would be an improvement! :yes:
Also, do be aware that maybe 1/3rd of the SED/winged C EL34s now show up with some degree of bottle tilt. It's bad on some, and subtle on others, but if you need matched quads or larger groupings you are liable to have some that aren't 100% straight.