50nstillhifi
Super Member
They will negotiate.. or stop negotiating.. mostly on "how badly you want it".. meaning you (the buyer with $$) steer the "bargain barometer".
Because happen to be a dealer I can't have an opinion?
I didn't interpret it that way. You are certainly entitled to an opinion and thanks for sharing it.
I agree American cars are a lot better than they were years ago. The difference between my wife's '80 Pontiac Sunbird (a fairly 'small' car by US standards at the time) and Japanese cars of that era was much greater than comparable cars today. Frankly I would not have a problem with driving many other brands. I drove some Nissan and Hyundai and Toyota when I was shopping a year ago and they seemed fine mechanically. I don't like the Toyota front ends (ugh! really don't), the Mazda 3 I drove seemed very plastic-y inside, and so on. I can't complain about any of these with the Civic. And people do tend to gravitate to what they're used to, especially if the last one was pretty darn good. As for the current car, the wife is going to drive it so I'm mostly a consultant.
I don't know what's up with that! I never was really motivated to own their cars, but never ruled them out either. Those Toyota and Lexus models with that big ugly gaping black gash on the front is IMHO a very poor styling decision, and not at all appealing. But it's a trend--it'll pass, and the next generations likely will look better.I don't like the Toyota front ends (ugh! really don't),
Oh jeesh, what a dolt!!I almost spit coffee on the windshield but somehow held it in.
Trouble is she wants a late model one with limited miles and an uncommon trim package,
Thanks for your kind advice. I'll tell her to shut the f*ck up next chance I get.
What's wrong with the current Ford Fusion?
Ford Fusion, I've driven it from the company motor pool, seems OK. Not sure the wife has. Worth a look if not. I love my 95 Ranger but that was a long time ago.
Unfortunately the Toyotas have a hideous front end look these days (IMO) and I would scratch my own eyes out of she bought one. I don't care if it's the most reliable and fun car on the road, it looks awful.