Discussion in 'Turntables' started by Grumpy, Jun 22, 2002.
Looks like my ql-y5f.
I have a dozen or more "project" turntables in varying states of disrepair. Good excuse to do an inventory:
- Three Linn Sonkek LP12s, two with Valhalla PS and one pre-Valhalla
- One Thorens TD-125 MKII with Stax UA-7 tonearm
- One Thorens TD-150 MKII AB with stock arm, no headshell
- Thorens TD-124, no armboard or arm
- Two Bogen/Lenco heavy platters (B60 and B61) with stock arm
- Oracle Alexandria
- Rek-o-Kut L34H with Gray 208 16" transcription tonearm
- Rek-o-Kut Rondine Deluxe with Pritchard ADC wooden tonearm
- Audio Technica AT-LP240
The main problem I face with most of these turntables is the cost to get them working and sounding decent. If I could manage scrape $1K together, which would I choose? I tried using tonearms and cartridges I had on hand with unsatisfactory results. My vinyl sounded tired and scratchy even with my best attempt, a Linn LP12 Valhalla with Ultracraft AC-300 MKII tonearm and AT-440MLB cartridge. While doing a google search for tonearms under $1K I found NaimNatNod's post on the AT-LP1240 and couldn't believe such a thing could be purchased at that price point. I was able to purchase an AT-LP240 on ebay for roughly $360 and stuck the AT-440MLB on it. I am getting excellent results with this setup at roughly half the cost of what I thought I'd have to spend. I am finally getting the sound I had hoped for from my vinyl, open and uncompressed with plenty of dynamic range and inner detail all the way through to the end of the record. While I still intend to eventually get a couple of my older tables working, the AT-LP240 will be the basis for comparison.
Victor QL-A75, Kenwood KD3070
Welcome to the AK turn table forum.
The only TT I've ever owned, the recently-revived Marantz TT530 linear tracking unit which I purchased new in 1980, performed flawlessly in regular use for most of those years. Knowing little to nothing about phono cartridges back then, sometime in the mid 90s I swapped out the worn, original Audio-Technica cartridge that the TT came with for an AT/Realistic RX1500. That cart worked great for me for 20 years until the needle assembly literally imploded several weeks ago. Soon after that my TT tracking motor belt gave out and my new audio gear quest officially began -- and AK came to my rescue.
Thanks to this forum I was able to find an exact replacement for the TT belt. But even more awesomely, based on what I've been able to learn here about premium vintage cartidges, I was fortunate enough to score a brand new NOS Audio-Technica AT331LP cartridge on eBay. It arrives later this week and I CAN'T WAIT to experience the difference that I know I've never before heard in my old LPs.
Next up I will be refurbishing my pair of blown EPI T/E 100 speakers and then looking into the possibly upgrade of said faithful, yet admittedly 'fair-to-middlin' Marantz TT530, perhaps to one of the better vintage Technics models.
Micro Seiki BL-21with a Rega RB300 and a Dynavector 20x.
Miida T3115,Yamaha YP-D6, Yamaha P550, Scott PS17, Dual 1219, and until this morning a Dual 1225 sold to an AKER subscriber
Clearaudio Ambient, Satisfy Carbon fibre Arm, and a Maestro V2
I have two TTs, a vintage Pioneer PL41 and a Project RPM3.
The PL41 was a fun restoration. It is built like no other. The cartridge on there now is a Shure M91ED with a Vivid Line stylus. Gawd ....what a combination!
1. Added like new TT mat
2. Polished cover
3. Added correct thickness TT belt
4. Built bottom plinth cover to match OEM bottom cover with correct ventilation holes. Used similar hard board material.
5. Replaced cast aluminum speed cover with like new OEM speed cover.
6. Filled minor sliver in walnut plinth. Cleaned polished restored walnut plinth.
7. Matched paint and touched up cast aluminum top plinth.
8. Replaced thrust bearing and lubricated.
I really like fixing up mediocre equipment into over achievers, This $2. pl 112d turntable was on a concrete floor in my basement stripped of cables, feet, head shell, left for junk with cd players stacked on top. I just started seeing a few guys using them on here, so I got the little thing up and running. Did some feet and dampening mods, still sensitive with the floors, but better.
Nice Pioneer. I like those
My #1 table is a Kenwood , I added a refinish, Damping, plinth weight, Double feet, removed automatic function hardware, wired direct. new rca's , Digitrac 280e cart .
I own a Marantz 6300 purchased new in 1976. Extra fine condition. I use medium quality moving magnet cartridges in the Marantz headshells. One is a 26 year old Signet AM-40S, the other is my regular use AT440MLB.
After experiencing feedback problems with Japanese direct drive TT's ( Pioneer PL-51, Mitsubishi LT-22 linear tracking) I went back to belt drive suspended TT's.
I had started with an AR-XA then an AR-XB, Phillips 212, and Phillips 312. In 1990 I picked up a Sota Sapphire Series III from a Trading Times classified. $500 with dust cover, reflex clamp, Sumiko Premier MMT tonearm with PIB (phono interface box) Grado 8mz. I am still using that table 27 years later. I have no desire to change. I have a Grado TLZ, GTZ+, Goldring Epic, Ortofon FFXEII, Shure M75. I have a Music Hall MMF 2.1 that I originally bought for my daughter that I keep for a backup it has the factory installed Goldring Elan.
Tell us please about your mods to your td 160.Is it an original model?
As a fellow td124(mine actually a td121) ,do you find the bass and drive of the idlers far superior to the belt drive 125? I find this to be so and some relief is to be found in the "correct timing of the direct drive". As well as my td121,I now only have technics sp25 and sl1401 models. I find that the idler can fathom the depths and do stop start in the music better but the 121/124 thorens are high maintainance decks, compared to technics.
Dual 728Q - but I'd love have a classic Pioneer turntable...
Welcome to the AK turn table forum.
Yes it would be hard to go back to the linn colourations, my td121 stole my heart too. There is fundamentaly several things wrong with the sound of an LP12 ,which are being now addressed at some outragous price, no thanks. The price of used 124s is sky high but you can still buy 3 with spares for less than a new linn.
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