Old_Tech
Yer-isn't!
Some investment in the 717 will make it hard to beat. It would take a lot more money to do better.
I am sure you are right Mike as I can hardly believe the sound now. I'll be in the queue soon!
Some investment in the 717 will make it hard to beat. It would take a lot more money to do better.
With what we can buy online or auction, what is the best tuner out there? Do we look to Sansui? Mcintosh, whats the consensus. I just got a 717 and its beautiful. It makes me wonder how much better it can get...
To be redundant - the TU-717 is an excellent tuner. To get better, especially if the 717 pulls in all the stations you listen to cleanly and you're happy with the sound, you'll have to spend a lot more to obtain marginally better performance. Be a bit like chasing your tail, which can be fun - just ask any dog. :thmbsp:
i basically agree w/your mcintosh rankings; even richard modafferi has stated a properly set-up mr77 will sound better than an mr78. re: the tubed tunas, i used to own a refurb'd and modded to the gills mr65b, the tech who did the mods basically agreed w/your assessment of the tubed mac tunas, but said w/a proper refub & mods, they are all pretty equivalent. i chose the 65b cuz i liked its style the best, and it was the least expensive to buy unserviced.Best sounding SS McIntosh tuner, the MR 74. Next best, the MR 77. Best tube McIntosh tuner, the MR 71. I like the MR 65B and the MR 67 a lot in the sound department. The MR 78 stock is lacking in sound, but in super narrow is one of the all time DX classics. Reason why the MR 74 has better sound is each stage was designed by McIntosh's best designers. The MR 78 was entirely designed by Richard Modafferi who is a superb RF designer but not as good in the audio department.
uh, no, i believe the info posted is correct. at least it is according to the few authorized tandberg service techs i spoke with about it.Soundwise, I find that there is a difference between the 3001 and the 3001A.
I am also aware that there has been more upgrades than just the FET part.
So I believe you are not properly informed about this.
"dolph"
again, at least regarding sound quality, you are mistaken when referring to the sony xdr-f1hd. thru a tube stage, it sounds quite good, even in stock form. yes, it is not as good as the best analog tunas, and yes, it does do better on analog broadcasts, which is why one of the awailable mods - to force it into analog reception on stations that broadcast hd - is a good idea.HD is NOT High Definition.
"HD" was connected to the term Hybrid Digital but that was dropped.
HD tuners are a dead end and sound like that as well, just like DAB in EU is and does.
At the best, and only IF FCC, by law, removes the option of broadcasting analog FM, the resolution can sneak up to a comparable 300kb/s MP3 quality.
"dolph"
uh, no, i believe the info posted is correct. at least it is according to the few authorized tandberg service techs i spoke with about it.
doug s.
again, at least regarding sound quality, you are mistaken when referring to the sony xdr-f1hd. thru a tube stage, it sounds quite good, even in stock form. yes, it is not as good as the best analog tunas, and yes, it does do better on analog broadcasts, which is why one of the awailable mods - to force it into analog reception on stations that broadcast hd - is a good idea.
doug s
what jdurbin1 has posted here to this thread makes the most sense to me. i never had my refurb'd modded 3001a in the same room w/my ex-brother-in-law's refurb'd 3001, so i dunno; and i also have no idea what wintage his 3001 was. but, for me, since it is so much easier to find a cheaper better sounding more reliable tuna than any of the 3001's "a" or otherwise, i really don't care any more - my trip thru tandberg lane took place early-on in my tuna addiction..Then again the Norwegian people I know that have had their historical technical era on Tandberg factories and those Norwegians, Swedes and Danes that I know of that were educated to serve Tandberg Tech centres in Scandinavia supports that there are differences.
Enough to make it audible.
Enough to make difference in solidity of the circuity.
But Tandberg upgraded gradually.
Get an early 3001 and a late 3001A and the differences will shine through.
On a late 3001 and an early 3001A it will be harder to determine soundwise.
"dolph"
"again" had to do w/your tandberg comments. i said "again", cuz my wery next post to this thread was addressing something you posted.I will have a hard time debating this since HD Radio is not present in EU.
The figures I stated are not wrong.
The term connected to HD Radio is not wrong either.
And when resembling that with figures for sound quality and digital resolution on DAB here in EU, I stand by what I posted.
What is it you find wrong?
Do you think the "HD" has influence on the analog broadcasting from one particular station?
And what do you mean with "again"?
"dolph"
With what we can buy online or auction, what is the best tuner out there? Do we look to Sansui? Mcintosh, whats the consensus. I just got a 717 and its beautiful. It makes me wonder how much better it can get...
Agreed, if you have a top notch antenna system and a poor tuner, the tuner will be your weak link. Especially if your favorite station is 50 miles or more away and isn't super powered to boot. I am a rural listener and a super tuner is needed along with that fine antenna for good listening in Stereo. Otherwise, I get noisy mono to fluttery, multipath laden stereo. I live midway between Knoxville and Chattanooga, TN most of the week. I get all but the lowest powered signals and have many stations on adjacent channels to boot and I need every bit of sensitivity and selectivity I can get.
best tuna? kinda like most beautiful woman?This thread was fun I miss the "Best Tuner" comments! Or did we sum it up pretty much?