As long as I participate in this forum, it will be different. Very different. And because it is NOT like the others, I am still here. I can tell you that I left a lot of forums, most of them German ones.
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As long as I participate in this forum, it will be different. Very different. And because it is NOT like the others, I am still here. I can tell you that I left a lot of forums, most of them German ones.
Mystic
We're all born mad
Kudos for starting this thread, it's been too long we @ AK play @ this game wearing kid gloves.
I personally think vintage is far more interesting and appealing. And I think it's great that there's a site that celebrates vintage. It's great culture. The best thing is it gets repaired and it gets used. It's not for everybody - one nice thing about mass market is that the mass market is less likely to spend its hard earned money on boutique snake oil.
edit - are we in danger of being locked? If so I don't want to be the last guy to post cuz it will look bad. Somebody post something
edit - are we in danger of being locked? If so I don't want to be the last guy to post cuz it will look bad. Somebody post something
Cats are Fuzzy , Vintage is Fuzzy = Cats are Vintage ?? Or Vintage are Cats ??
Another tie in. Tube watts are like Dog Watt years vs Solid State Watt years.
And Dogs are Fuzzy also.
Frannie
PS: I am certain a post like I just did here would get me banned elsewhere. So AK is best because it allows my goofiness.
Oh and I can post here in morse code.
I know an AK girl who makes AK unique.
There is indeed a strong emphasis here on vintage equipment. Even when we discuss about, say, CD players, its mostly about units designed before many residents of other forums were born. And since we are discussing vintage, there's a real percentage of discussions about fixing faulty stuff, servicing, bringing old gems back to their former glory (or close by).
I have visited other forums and some I hate, some were nice to visit. Those discussing the latest and greatest without any real understanding of how music comes out of the damn thing are the worst. Anti-vibration feet for CD players and heavy weight CD transports on plinths to minimize digital jitter. Ouch!. I really hate snake oil.
If I may bring an analogy with vintage cars, I'd say that a 50's Mercedes Benz 300SL has about the same performance with my current car (an Audi S3 8L). Now, which is the cooler car to drive? There are those who would say it's last years (at most) current model. And there are some that would dedicate time, effort and money to restore a 60 years old car and enjoy driving it.
It's like comparing "ease of use, practicality and interest only in using a consumer product" against "interest on how it works and desire to make an old gem shine again". Two different vantage points, each with their merits. I would not discard either. It's important that one doesn't dismiss what they don't understand.
I have visited other forums and some I hate, some were nice to visit. Those discussing the latest and greatest without any real understanding of how music comes out of the damn thing are the worst. Anti-vibration feet for CD players and heavy weight CD transports on plinths to minimize digital jitter. Ouch!. I really hate snake oil.
If I may bring an analogy with vintage cars, I'd say that a 50's Mercedes Benz 300SL has about the same performance with my current car (an Audi S3 8L). Now, which is the cooler car to drive? There are those who would say it's last years (at most) current model. And there are some that would dedicate time, effort and money to restore a 60 years old car and enjoy driving it.
It's like comparing "ease of use, practicality and interest only in using a consumer product" against "interest on how it works and desire to make an old gem shine again". Two different vantage points, each with their merits. I would not discard either. It's important that one doesn't dismiss what they don't understand.
Well if its 10000 degrees out with 2000 percent humidity that Audi is cooler to drive with its AC.
Frannie
My 1979 Audi has no AC. But I love it anyway, for more than 30 years.
let me pose this: this website (AK) has the best hands down tech section of pretty much anything on the web (unless there is on on the dark web about making nukes or something) the tech section thrives and gets drama free posts hundreds at a time, because many someones in many someplaces, worldwide want the vintage stuff to work again. and the reasons WHY are not important. complaining about that is like going to "squarebodychevy.com" and whining they talk about trucks too much.
again, mebbe I dont hang out in too many places too many times as the vast majority of my reads are in tech, and my writes are distributed. but I do not recall people saying 'you new stuff sucks' I am prepared to be proven wrong on that, but I have seen, here and elsewhere people saying 'your old stuff sucks'
again, mebbe I dont hang out in too many places too many times as the vast majority of my reads are in tech, and my writes are distributed. but I do not recall people saying 'you new stuff sucks' I am prepared to be proven wrong on that, but I have seen, here and elsewhere people saying 'your old stuff sucks'
Djcoolray
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But vintage can be updated.....
Just like a car with better quality internal components, I’ve put air conditioning in many classic cars. Just like changing out internal components in stereo equipment for better modern components. Using high grade German caps is like putting disc brakes in a ‘50 Ford shoe box...a chop top ‘50 Ford business coupe !!! Nothing has to stay OEM...
If you personalize what you own are you still a consumer of OEM ???
dondoucette
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F them...
I do all sorts of things that seem to piss other people off.
I belong to a vinyl group who's members talk about CD's and cassettes, I pointed out it was a vinyl group and boy did I get pounced on... meh who cares.
My Harley chopper is more not Harley than it is Harley, the Harley guys give me a hard time because my bike looks sort of like a sport bike... meh who cares
If I am supposed to live my life and never make anybody else uncomfortable or never hurt anybody's feelings then F that, I'll do whatever I want and if it bothers them too F'n bad, step up if you feel that strongly. Most of them are keyboard warriors and would hide under their bed if confronted.
AK dudes are some of the best there are, there is still the odd A-hole (me) but they're mostly harmless.
I do all sorts of things that seem to piss other people off.
I belong to a vinyl group who's members talk about CD's and cassettes, I pointed out it was a vinyl group and boy did I get pounced on... meh who cares.
My Harley chopper is more not Harley than it is Harley, the Harley guys give me a hard time because my bike looks sort of like a sport bike... meh who cares
If I am supposed to live my life and never make anybody else uncomfortable or never hurt anybody's feelings then F that, I'll do whatever I want and if it bothers them too F'n bad, step up if you feel that strongly. Most of them are keyboard warriors and would hide under their bed if confronted.
AK dudes are some of the best there are, there is still the odd A-hole (me) but they're mostly harmless.
Djcoolray
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Yes, but there are Audi’s that came with air conditioning equipment that fits your car....so you have the option when you want to have a compressor rebuilt and have it installed. But many in your country will not spend the money to do so because of how people view spending money on a car that has little monetary value. That’s the difference between the concept of having new stereo equipment over classic stereo equipment and those that rebuild and improve vintage equipment without caring what others think especially if your going to keep something forever. Or, if it’s just something that interests you without caring what others think. Some people are into things and not into what others think about.
When I was in Germany I had a 1978 BMW 323i, I pulled the engine and engine electrical harness and components out and put in a 1988 325ES engine block with a 1988 325IS cylinder head with a 524TDI turbo exhaust and intake system with the 325IS engine harness and electrical components. I was in the BMW club in Langeselbold near Hanau and the German members...I was the only American, thought the car would never run. They helped me adjust everything to run effectively and I let them drive the are when finished and they were smiling while still shaking their heads.
It’s called thinking outside of the box, that things don’t have to be any certain way. That cars just like stereo equipment can become personalized to the needs of the individual and not just some consumer product that eventually gets recycled !!!
My wife drove a ‘79 Audi 100....
I'll bet most of the visits from Google hits are people trying to fix something. Anybody can claim to have golden ears but if you're trying to talk somebody through troubleshooting and repair you better know your stuff. Before I got high-speed internet and drifted over to Music that's pretty much all I did here.
JimPA
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That is the thread I am referring to.
Totem uses Hi-Vi Research. ATC, Scan Speak woofers and MB Quart tweeters in their vast line of speakers.
Each model is obviously different.
Dynaudio sells drivers to speaker companies but not to the DIY crowd anymore.
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