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Who still uses vintage Magnavox CD players?
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Schurkey
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I did exactly the same thing (Audio/Jung mods) to exactly the same player (CDB460). That was my third "electronics" project, the first two being to yank the tubes out of disfunctional TV sets, testing them at one of the few remaining "tube testing" stations on Earth, replacing half-a-dozen, and then the TVs still didn't work properly. I was more successful with the Magnavox. As I recall, the Magnavox/Sylvania/Phillips CD player mods as published in Audio magazine were the simplest, easiest, biggest-bang-for-the-modification-buck version of Jungs "POOGE", which stood for "Properly Optimized...O-something G-something E-something".
Eventually, the Maggotbox went to my In-Laws, I replaced it with a Sony 5-disc carousel. The In-laws had it for years, but I think they used it very little. One day, I noticed that it was gone from their house. They never said why, and I never asked. I wish they'd have returned it to me.
The Sony 5-disc eventually burned up in a garage fire.
I've moved on to Adcom GCD-600 5-disc carousels, so in effect I've come right back to the Phillips 16-bit DAC of the Maggotbox CDB460.
I've a Magnavox CD player upgraded by Musical Concepts somewhere, sort of an extreme POOGE.
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I picked up a CDB460 off of eBay a few days ago. This thing looks like a piece of crap and is as light as a Funai but man does it sound great. I think its analog outputs sound better than the digital output through my Grant Fidelity Tubedac-11. That TDA1541 chip must be something else.
By the way, the DCB460 has LM833n op amps, which are supposedly better than the NE5532's that come in the more robust CDB650. This thing sounds pretty darn good as-is.
Has anyone replaced the LM833n's with anything else and gained significant improvements?
By the way, the DCB460 has LM833n op amps, which are supposedly better than the NE5532's that come in the more robust CDB650. This thing sounds pretty darn good as-is.
Has anyone replaced the LM833n's with anything else and gained significant improvements?
A few days after I received my CDB460 off of eBay, I found a Craigslist ad for two CDB650 players. One was absolutely mint, the other pretty nice but not perfect. There was one remote between the two, also in near mint condition. The asking price was $10 for both players, the remote, and a manual.
Yep.
Tried the Opa2604, Opa627 (on dual adapters), Motorola MC34082p, countless others, and my own version of the Pooge4 semi-discrete OpAmp replacements..
The semi-discrete device is the best.
If you want to play a bit, just desolder the 833s and install a DIP socket. :thumbup::thumbup:
vinylisfinal
Super Member
i am still using a Sylvania ( magnavox) cd 1650, awesome unit built like a tank!
The Analog Devices AD827JN sounds great in a CDB-650.
Robint
Super Member
Found a CDB630 at GW for $9.50 recently, Badged as Philips and made in Belgium. No date on the back, uses a TDA1541A and a CDM4/19. Replaced a Kenwood DP-7010 in the living room, just sounded better than the Kenwood. In the man-cave I have a Sylvania CDB-1560 modded by Van Alstine. This one uses the TDA1541 and CDM2/10. Also use a AR CD-06 which also uses the same chip and drive as the 1560. Can't beat the sound of the old Philips players.
Spent yesterday evening working on the CBD630. The tray would open slightly and I had to give it a pull and it would open. Slight nudge and the tray would close. Ordered a new gear and belt from China. So pulled the front panel and removed the tray. Installed the new gear and belt after cleaning off the old grease and re-greasing. The main problem was the channels that hold the tray, where the cd sits, were filled with grease which had solidified. Probably old Garrard grease! Cleaned out old grease and re-lubed with a plastic safe grease and the tray slides in and out smoothly. So if you have trouble with your tray sticking it's probably old grease.
Spent yesterday evening working on the CBD630. The tray would open slightly and I had to give it a pull and it would open. Slight nudge and the tray would close. Ordered a new gear and belt from China. So pulled the front panel and removed the tray. Installed the new gear and belt after cleaning off the old grease and re-greasing. The main problem was the channels that hold the tray, where the cd sits, were filled with grease which had solidified. Probably old Garrard grease! Cleaned out old grease and re-lubed with a plastic safe grease and the tray slides in and out smoothly. So if you have trouble with your tray sticking it's probably old grease.
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banyanleaf
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These old machines can produce unbelievably beautiful playback of jazz and vocal (including operas) music recorded in the analog time, unsurpassed by the new mid or low-fi CDPs or computer media players. I am not going to let go my old Philips or Magnavox CDPs made in the 80s, period.
Kosh
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Recently I bought those two CD Players,Philips CD380- it have A 4/19 transport and TDA1541A DAC,and Sherwood CDP310R,which is entirely Philips based-the transport is CDM 2/10 and the DAC is the very old TDA1540.both those CD Players sounds lovely! I can't stop using them! 
the sherwood also have A heatsink on the back,and the CD tray A have A cool little "window" with red led that lights up when the disc is spinning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK-HL1byIXY&list=UUmd5J6UioAzMdgOI0Te-Q-A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZzgTRZHDwo&list=UUmd5J6UioAzMdgOI0Te-Q-A
the sherwood also have A heatsink on the back,and the CD tray A have A cool little "window" with red led that lights up when the disc is spinning.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK-HL1byIXY&list=UUmd5J6UioAzMdgOI0Te-Q-A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZzgTRZHDwo&list=UUmd5J6UioAzMdgOI0Te-Q-A
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chewie
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I've have one of those, but my leds don't work properly.
Kosh
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And today I got another Philips(magnavox for you the Americans) CD Player! 
CD150 Model.CDM 2/10 Transport,TDA1540P DAC.I really like the "analog" like sound of those,simple,cheap players.much better than my other brands of CDP'S like Sony/Denon/Kenwood/Pionner.
CD150 Model.CDM 2/10 Transport,TDA1540P DAC.I really like the "analog" like sound of those,simple,cheap players.much better than my other brands of CDP'S like Sony/Denon/Kenwood/Pionner.Attachments
If you like the CD150, try a Tandberg 3015A - same transport & dual 14-bit DAC, but beefed up power supply and an entirely separate class A-biased analog output section plus headphone amp. Built around the CD150, though.
CD160 was the basis for the later true 16-bit version 3015A. A TDA1541 replaced the dual TDA1540P.
John
CD160 was the basis for the later true 16-bit version 3015A. A TDA1541 replaced the dual TDA1540P.
John
audio3000
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Just picked up today a Magnavox CDB 692 which is a Philips CD 962. Very nice sounding (warm, easy listening, very good stage, very good sounding across the whole audio spectrum) bit stream CD deck. One down side is that the low level signal is not as clean as my Denon DCD-3520 (20 bit BB R2R DAC) with op-amp mods. This difference is expected or I will cry..;-) This noise is very much the same as my Nakamichi MB-10 (also a bit stream DAC). But I have to listening very carefully for it.
Overall, the CDB 692 is a very nice casual listening machine especially for it's current price. May be time for mods too...
Overall, the CDB 692 is a very nice casual listening machine especially for it's current price. May be time for mods too...
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