World's most expensive DAC?

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  1. PAGS

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  2. botrytis

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    Sorry, not the worlds most expensive. There are others worth more.

    Guttenberg is an goof and not a very good journalist.
     
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    People get stuff like that as an excuse to casually drop the sales pamphlets on the floor at the office.
     
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    I was just saying that it is more expensive than the dsc. Also Goldmund is going to be more expensive also and there are other brands that would be higher.

    I heard that dsc and was not impressed. The cheaper DACs of dsc sounded better - still higher than I would pay.
     

     

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  7. Joe Roberts

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    Guttenberg is a pro writer and knows exactly what he is doing, which is writing for a non-specialist audience from a sort-of consumer electronics standpoint.

    More people will read that dumb blurb than anything in the "high-end" press this month. Mass market digital journalism.

    Why go to cNet for audio information? That is the airplane magazine of information channels.

    Anyway, for the AK audience, here's the real scoop from the Joe-Man:

    "The more you spend on a DAC, the weirder it will sound."

    Yes, I have lots of experience with TOTL DACs from DCS and others. You are well advised to keep it under five figures unless you find something very special.

    Listen more, read less.
     
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    Well, it is still more expensive than the dcs which was 80K. So Guttenberg IS WRONG AGAIN.
     
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    I don't give a shit whether Guttenberg was wrong. I'm a bit disappointed that you were wrong about the price of the MSB DAC. ;)
     
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    WOW personal eh? I guess next your going to insult my mother.
     

     

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    The Audio Note DAC 5 Signature is close to 100k list price .
    if I had another couple of 00s on the end of my pay check ?
     
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    Don't be ridiculous. I was kidding you.
     
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    In other words, a two figure DAC will sound better that a three figure DAC which will sound better than a four figure DAC ... unless you feel otherwise. :thumbsup:
     
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    Not everyone is emoji fluent.
     
  16. Joe Roberts

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    What I'm saying is that people who have $75k DACs have them because they want $75k DACs and refuse to settle for cheap plebeian $5000 DACs.

    This is how the luxury market operates.

    Based on listening to a few top dollar (Euro, CHF, GBP) DACs at length, I have to conclude that sound quality and musicality is a secondary consideration. Fancy DACs tend to sound very mechanical and processed to me, just like many DACs at any price, but even more in your face "distinctive"...not good.

    Frankly, I haven't heard many ultra cheap DACs but In passing, and they were no worse than the fancy multibox jobs I know. Maybe the cheap ones were more in the sense that I didn't constantly feel like I was listening to a super impressive DAC.

    I use a Wavelength Brick. Sounds nice and doesn't drive me crazy or draw attention to itself. I might try some cheapo NOS implementations next. Hyper-resolution digital doesn't work for me.

    Maybe a few expensive DACs I haven't heard yet are decent, but all are made to be expensive to pick up those buyers whose self-image or swank audio decor doesn't permit owning a cheap DAC. A guy who has an all Goldmund system is not going to use an ebay DAC or even $5000 DAC. He will want the Swiss quality Goldmund DAC.. It will look good and sound fine. Nicely made. A respected brand. Satisfied customer.

    I am not entirely against expensive stuff but I really don't see any performance payback with $85000 DACs. However, I am no means the target buyer and the world luxury audio market moves stacks of them without having me on the customer list.

    That is a good price point for big manufacturers. People ready to buy BMW priced DACs always have spare cash to blow on high grade toys.

    That's basically the story Steve Guttenberg is reporting for cNet.
     

     

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  17. botrytis

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    I was trying to get that aire of being insulted, but again, one can't put in the funny body language (it was Groucho Marx style).
     
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    Glad to know that. :)
     

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