I'm not meaning to talk about receivers. What I'm asking is, and I should've been more to the point: Does something like the Yamaha AS line best the high end vintage stuff of yesteryear? I'm asking because I don't want to buy sonething just because it's old. I want something that truly sounds great, and is far beyond the BestBuy off the shelf stuff. The CR2020 has a tuner in it so that's a bit of a bonus. But if it's not going to be as good a sounding unit as the current gear, at least in the AS range, then for me anyway, it's a lost cause. The Luxman M-02 and C02 are just preamp and amplifier. And that was what first got me going on all this. But again, how does that stand up against what is around today? I'm looking for your opinions because many of you have such vast collections of new and old gear, that i feel it makes you somewhat of an authority on the subject.