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Old 10-29-2009, 11:37 AM
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The 305 is a baby Symphony and by some Bozak lovers amongst the rarest and best for stereo. Apparently, if you turn them on their side and rotate the woofer/tweeter likewise there is a big improvement. That's a really nice looking set.
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:07 PM
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Elusive to quantify. They are not the loudest, or lowest, or 'disappear'-est. What they do is present a True timbre, and that is rare.

I've had a lot of speakers that came and went, but my 4000E Symphonies and smaller 3001 and 301F Bozaks just have that je ne sais quoi.

The smaller ones use the same unique wool/horse hair/papyrus cone as the TOTL. My Symphonies keep that true tone/timbre even at striking SPL. I can discern many individual instruments even in full-tilt orchestral crescendos...

...even on the other side of the house...
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:18 PM
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I would set floorstanders with feet on their sides so the feet are sticking out sideways. Yes I would.

Mirror imaged asymmetrical driver arrangement. Was Bozak the first to really consider the stereo image and take steps way back in the '50s?

I mirrored my early DQ-10s to get that; in my Symphonies Rudy B did it for me so I didn't have to.
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:47 PM
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Well, my dream of having the Concert Grands have been put on hold for the time being. Where I work, we have typically have four shifts of people working. My employer has laid off an entire shift of people. Thankfully I still have my job, for how much longer I do not know, but what this also means is that I now work seven days a week, week after week, month after month with no days off. I really wanted to be able to go hear some Bozaks before laying down that kind of dough, but now will be unable to because I will not have any days off. Hopefully this won't last forever and I can resume my pursuit. But for now, with the current employment situation, I better lay low.

Thanks for all the comments everyone has shared with me.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:34 AM
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Oh, that's a drag. My stepfather's in a slightly-similar situation (although he doesn't live for the music like some of us do). I feel for ya'. Hopefully things will change.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:33 PM
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http://www.hifilit.com/hifilit/Bozak/Bozak.htm

28-20,000Hz is the useful response of the concert grands and they recommend a 60 wpc amp.
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:22 AM
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28-20,000Hz is the useful response of the concert grands and they recommend a 60 wpc amp.
They recommend 60 minimum, and that was when 60 was considered rather impressive. Double that, especially if you have music with bass output.

Listened today on my ~60 wpc Luxman on the Symphonies, classical was superb.
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:04 AM
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I'm not sure if he was the first or not but it was not an issue before stereo so it might be. He had an issue with the hemispherical array imaging in stereo so he had to redesign the system. It might be he was the first to attack the issue as it was a major problem for him at the time.
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I heard Susurus' pair of Bozaks and IMHO they were horrible (sorry man). Dark, thick, not well defined. I really did not like them at all which was disappointing. They were not setup well, on cinder blocks and driven funny. His DQ30 were my favorite in that room.

I own W90's, they got me into vintage and i bought them not knowing anything about them. Lots of speakers have come and gone but these are still here. I love them. the bass is excellent and real. The mids are very nice and the top end is also excellent but limited range. A very inviting a smooth jazz speaker. Attached to my low watt Fisher amp they are wonderful and WARM. For what they do they do it well. Imaging kinda sucks a little.
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:13 PM
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Rudy had Synphony's at his house, was said to prefer them to the Concert Grands. Could have been as issue with waf, who knows.

I recently went from a Pioneer SX 950 at 85 watts rms, EW recapped, to a high current Aragon power amp with 100 per, and man. As I have read, the Bozaks will take what you give them and make it work, source sensitive. The difference was a wow. They say bi-amping is the next step.

I have ran them using a 40 watt Kenwood receiver, sounded great. IMO Spend all your money on big Bozaks and then upgrade the rest as you get the bucks, and they'll respond.
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:24 PM
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I have the 1/2 concert grands !
Does that mean they stop working at intermission?
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:40 PM
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I heard Susurus' pair of Bozaks and IMHO they were horrible (sorry man). Dark, thick, not well defined. I really did not like them at all which was disappointing. They were not setup well, on cinder blocks and driven funny. His DQ30 were my favorite in that room.

I own W90's, they got me into vintage and i bought them not knowing anything about them. Lots of speakers have come and gone but these are still here. I love them. the bass is excellent and real. The mids are very nice and the top end is also excellent but limited range. A very inviting a smooth jazz speaker. Attached to my low watt Fisher amp they are wonderful and WARM. For what they do they do it well. Imaging kinda sucks a little.
Yes, the DQ-20i's are great speakers (and that's with Peerless 25mm tweeters substituted for the orig (expensive) 19mm ScanSpeaks). Yes I've moved the big Bozaks into the bedroom, where they work like nearfield since the room's small. They sound great in mono, some comb filtering in stereo. I've not seen DQ-30's yet.

Up against the wall may be a better position than I had them in the middle of the room up on blocks, that was the best placement for Maggies in that room but that doesn't mean the Bozaks should have been placed there. Possibly more to the point, my Fisher RS-1080 sounds on the dark side with everything, not just those.

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Old 11-04-2009, 06:48 PM
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Oh, that's a drag. My stepfather's in a slightly-similar situation (although he doesn't live for the music like some of us do). I feel for ya'. Hopefully things will change.
Thanks for the kind thoughts. Hopefully things work out for your stepfather too.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:03 PM
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My dad has been running Bozak Concert Grands since he purchased them new in '67 and they have some freaking amazing bass and mid response. My memory of the highs is that they're a bit rolled off but no big deal! Listening to music on these speakers is primarily an emotional experience for me. The sound hits you in the chest and vibrates your whole body. These speakers literally ROCK the house.

Sad thing is my dad usually just listens to stuff on his little Sony boombox while he tinkers.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:41 PM
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But, think on the positive side. He still has them and that means with luck one day he will give you a gift .
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