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Old 11-03-2009, 01:46 AM
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Three Channel Organ Amp - NEED HELP

Hello everyone. I recently purchased a three channel organ amplifier on eBay. From my initial research, I have tentatively concluded that it is a Baldwin amplifier. I want to try to use it to drive some music speakers (probably vintage Polk Audio Monitor 7s or 10s.

The tube complement is (8) 6BQ5/EL84's, (3) 12AX7/ECC83's and (2) 5U4 rectifier tubes. (Included are the (2) 5U4 rect tubes; As such I will need the remaining (11). Any suggestions on brands? I saw some cheap NOS Russian stuff on eBay; this a good bet?

Also, If anyone knows anything else about this amp, I'd appreciate all the help/information you can offer.

http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/x...88/Baldwin.jpg

Video of another one (I think the same one) playing: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...7468922418947#
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:04 PM
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I have a similar amp, if not the same, sitting on my storage shelf in the basement. I got it off of Craigslist. I'd like to get it going at some point. I know next to nothing about tube equipment....... those light bulb thingies get hot right?
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I wonder where the other two OTs are???
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:25 PM
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What is the potential of these amps in a home audio application? I'm assuming mono output only?
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:30 PM
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That might have driven the organ bass only. Dunno. I don't see three OPTs.
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I wonder where the other two OTs are???
A friend of mine has that exact same amp! There are two identical output transformers under the chassis!

Also, I believe it is a 4 channel amp. Two 6BQ5's per OPT on PP.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:14 PM
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Last one of those I saw, IIRC, was three channel. Four 6BQ5s on the big OPT on the left rear of the chassis (PPP), and two 6BQ5 each on the two transformers under the chassis.

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Old 11-03-2009, 10:51 PM
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Last one of those I saw, IIRC, was three channel. Four 6BQ5s on the big OPT on the left rear of the chassis (PPP), and two 6BQ5 each on the two transformers under the chassis. Regards,
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You're probably correct as I was not able to study my friends up close, but he did show me the underside and the two hidden transformers.
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:52 PM
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Upon further discussion with seller, looks like there is only one input, and three outputs; There are two trans on the bottom for the "weaker" channels.

Does anyone know if it is possible to modify this to accept two/three discrete channels of input?
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If you are tech savvy, you could probably see where each signal inputs to each of the 12AX7 tubes and split the inputs from there. Although I do not have the unit in front of me, I believe each 12AX7 tube drives each perspective channel individually.

EDIT: Pin #2 on each 12AX7 is the input. They are probably tied together from the single input so you could probably seperate them from there.

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Old 11-04-2009, 05:17 PM
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If you are tech savvy, you could probably see where each signal inputs to each of the 12AX7 tubes and split the inputs from there. Although I do not have the unit in front of me, I believe each 12AX7 tube drives each perspective channel individually.

EDIT: Pin #2 on each 12AX7 is the input. They are probably tied together from the single input so you could probably seperate them from there.
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I just took a quick look at mine...... it's a single plug, but it has 5 possible conductors. I didn't look at the underside.
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Are all three output trannys the same? Perhaps throwing a potentiometer volume control on the channel with four 6bq5s and attenuating it down to match is the answer.
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