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They said there is just not enough business in this throwaway society.

Exactly!

My first job was circuit board repairs, using oscilloscopes, logic analyzers, multimeters and logic probes. Armed with the circuit diagram and a knowledge of the various operations of components, I fixed them.

We did repairs on linear and switching power supplies, computers (from PDP8s and up, Nova 2 & 3 minicomputers, plus 8080/8085, Z80, 8086 and 68000 processor based controllers) and it was down to the chip level. Back then we had a lot of bad tantalum caps. They've gotten better over the years, but in the mid-late 70s they had a very high failure rate.

Anyway my point is, by the time the mid 80s were coming around this sort of work was no longer financially viable. It became quicker and cheaper to do entire board replacements and chuck out the old board.

As hardware became more mass produced on a massive scale across the globe, exacerbated by SMD devices (and associated repair, flow solder equipment), and programmable arrays, hardware repairs (to that level) became cost prohibitive.

Any old computer/programmers on these forums may remember the days when 4K of RAM would cost about $1000! Hardware was very expensive and therefore cost effective to repair. Then over a decade the hardware became cheap and throw away but the software side then became very expensive. This is still true today. Back then we had to hand optimise code to fit into tiny and expensive memory. Now we just buy another cheap 4G RAM module. It is cheaper to throw hardware to get more performance rather than programmers time in optimising the code.
 
the bribe thing i like a lot, i doubt it will work, but there is no harm in trying:yes:

as for me becoming a tech, i dont see it a very good prospect as i would surely break the thing , i would first need to learn reading schematics and take some courses to understand electronics, and i m sure these will not suffice.

maybe sourcing out repairs is the best option for the immediate future, albeit a much much more expensive one.

thanks for all the good suggestions

I was like you and the first pre amp that stopped working on me I asked AK for help. I posted schematics and the problem and they helped me test things and talked me through. Not only did I find and fix the problem, I also learned so much in the process I believe I can get pretty far on my own now if a problem should arise.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=514388

:beer: for those fine gents and two for petehall!
 
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Perhaps this is good time to get to know the modern offerings - we shouldn't be sentimental and think that only the past has good things to offer...

...like Teac AI-1000 receiver for example - at $599 on ebay, sounds better than vintage 2270 Marantz, many many Sansuis, etc. and you don't have to service them for a long time (with a little bit of luck since they are new).
 
Well, there are the sponsors listed at the bottom of the page. I would also suggest looking at repair shops in Newport News/Virginia beach area. It is still a shipping issue but with all the reapir shops there you might have shorter lead times. The folks on AK that repair gear are a God send but wait times might be long. You don't know till you ask.

Newport News-Big Navy base/lot of old school trained techs/still a number of shops open=shorter repair times.

Plan B would be to learn diy but you would still be a noob with a soldering iron. Confession-I am less than a noob when it comes to repair work.

If you are really ambitious, you can download this:
http://shopdawg.com/navman.htm
The NEETS manual

You would be teaching yourself w/o an instuctor. Youtube and google can help along the way for basic training. You would still be a FNG when you finished the manuals.

There are great threads out there about repairing your Sansui gear but when I see the diag procedures that the experienced techs at AK know (almost intuitively) having worked on something like your Sansui gear, I realize that I have to crawl before I can walk.

My little nightmare is recapping/restoring something, plugging it in, and getting smoke instead of lights.
 
The whole throw away nature in consumption these days effects everything but can't help but look around and see opportunity in all this "shiny vintage crap". Hobbyists carry the day and do consolidate a commodity and it's concerns.....consolidation does funny things to the "collective" human brain eventually. (It isn't like we're talking Pet Rocks here.....they aren't part of close to half the populations DNA.)
 
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