Help! JBL 4311 tweeter issue.

Ronald_Nixon

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Help, dear lord please. I have worked myself into a lather over this. I just now picked up a pair of JBL 4311s that sounded nice when I listened to them, but I’m such a dummy and did not a thorough enough job. Upon getting them home and sitting with them for a bit it became clear that one of the tweeters wasn’t working. Didn’t sound blown or distorted, just no sound whatsoever. The tweeter itself looks to be in excellent condition. I immediately called the guy I bought them from and told him the issue. He basically told me tough luck and tried to say they were fine at his house and if they didn’t work it was my fault. I had them for all of an hour at that point and babied them like I do all my audio gear. It’s not my amp, seeing as my other sets of speakers work fine . I switched the speakers cable sides and it’s definitely the tweeter in the one speaker. I don’t know what my next step should be. It’s driving me crazy.
 
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Next step is to open them up. Could be a wire came loose. If that's not the case, you'll have to remove the tweeter and test it with an ohm meter.
 
I tried but I can’t seem to pop the sticky little bugger off. I take the screws out and it just won’t budge. I don’t want to bust them.
 
I does sound a bit scratchy when I turn the presence knob but the brilliance sounds fairly clear. You will have to forgive me though. I’m still pretty new to all this and know little to nothing about technical stuff. Still learning and have a lot left to learn.
 
I does sound a bit scratchy when I turn the presence knob but the brilliance sounds fairly clear.

Exercise the knobs to see if that solves the problem...like back and forth 50 times. Many "dead" L100/4311 mids/tweets are really just the L-pads having dead spots and corrosion after 40-50 years.

The tweeter is most likely just stuck to the cabinet paint - no glue or sealer used for assembly. Get a pick hook tool and try to get under the tweeter flange through one of the screw holes and lift to break it loose. Obviously a chisel or other tool can be used to pry it up but will likely mar the cabinet paint.

Good luck!
 
Take a paper towel or toilet paper tube and put it over the tweeter and turn the pot back and forth and listen for any sound at all. If it is scratchy you know the tweeter is connected.
You may not have noticed the tweeter was not working when you tested the speakers originally. If you get no sound at all when you move the pot, it will need to be removed and the coil ohmed out for open coil.
They are available on ebay often, so.....
Great speakers btw. I love my set.
 
Oh man turning those knobs seemed to have done something. I’m getting sound now. I may have to pay to have someone go over these and recap them and clean the pots, but I think I got sound at least. Thanks everyone. I love this forum.
 
Something still sounds off, looks like someone did something weird to this speaker when they were refurbishing it or something. Definitely want to get it to someone to give it a good once over.
 
deoxit faderlube it- spray control pot. or just use alcohol n a hair dryer, after. otherwise, trace the cables and see if they can be disconnected for testing of the tweet or crossover. may want to keep from forcing it out, may damage the finish surrounding the tweet.
 
Please elaborate and be specific. I’m so sorry I’m still very new to this. What do you mean by IPad? I appreciate your patience
There are two "dials" that you can adjust from about 8 o clock to 4 o clock.

They are somewhat gritty feeling when you turn them.

These are called lpads.

They are to attenuate the output of specific drivers. You have 1 for the mid and 1 for the tweeter.

You can replace them or bypass them.

I get best results BY FAR by replacing them with fixed mills resistors.

I find that 9db of attenuation works perfect.

Sadly, many want to take the easy way out and try to clean them or replace them with lpads from parts express. The results going either of those 2 directions are MEH at best.

Vintage lpads are flakey at best or completely shot at worst.

The signal goes out of the 1st order filter (crossover), THEN it goes to the lpad, THEN to the speaker. Problems at the lpad means no output at the speaker and this is very likely what you are running into.
 
Ok cool, thank you. I will look into replacing them. Y’all have been so helpfully. May take me a bit to get it all taken care of, but I will let you know when I get them done.
 
Those speakers are excellent and worth a thorough rehab! Everything on them can be replaced if it's broken. Many of us audio geeks replace capacitors in the crossover and (depending on condition) the woofer foam surround as a matter of course.

Great advice above from all contributors I think. I'd follow these steps to isolate the problem component:

- Take a pic of the speaker fully assembled so you'll know any details when you go to put it back together.

- To dig the tweeter out of its mount, put the speaker on its back and carefully use a skinny pick or hook and a plastic tool like a putty knife to pry it loose. Be gentle but persistent. It will eventually come out and you are unlikely to do any damage.

- Note the two connections on the tweeter and the wire color that goes to each - a pic is worth 1000 words.

- If you're happy with the other speaker or it is at least working, switch the tweeters and see if the problem follows the tweeter or the cabinet. If the problem follows the tweeter, you need to replace it.

- I don't have that model but most speakers use the woofer hole for access into the cabinet for electronic repair. So remove the woofer the same way as the tweeter. It's much heavier (~5 lbs) so you may need to tip the speaker upright and be ready to catch it as it comes loose. Again, take a photo of the wire before disconnecting.

- Scratchy sounds suggest there is probably a loose or corroded connection. A loose wire is easiest to diagnose and fix. Just look for any wire connections inside and wiggle everything to see if you get the sound.

- The Lpad is the dial thing as stated above, typically a component called a potentiometer, and will have marks that specify its value in ohms, typically 25 or so. A corroded or worn Lpad is a highly likely candidate as other posters stated. To see if it's causing the issue, bypass the Lpad with a jumper wire (connect the tweeter directly to the wire on the Lpad that is not already connected to the tweeter. Alligator clip test leads are great for this but any wire will work.

- If the Lpad is ok, the next thing to check is capacitors. They are usually cylindrical components marked by a number to specify their value followed by the abbreviation "UF". The "U" is the Greek letter mu (short for "micro", or 1 millionth) followed by F which is "farads", the unit of capacitance. A capacitor marked 10 UF 100V is 10 microfarads and good up to 100 volts. They cannot be tested in place, and (unless you get crazy audiophile brands) they are cheap, so consider replacing them. Dayton is the brand I use because they're easy to get.

- If either the Lpad or capacitors are causing the problem, you will likely have to desolder them and solder in the replacement parts. It's not too tough but you might want to watch a video or phone a friend. But before doing anything, get a picture that clearly shows every wire, component, and connection.

Given this is your first repair, I'd suggest replacing any components with similar electronics. While some feel they are not audiophile quality, I personally have had great results with new reasonably priced electronics from Parts Express and many other vendors. To each his/her own approach.

If all else fails, used working original drivers will be on eBay at some point, and tweeters usually aren't too expensive.

If you catch the disease, your next purchase should be a digital multimeter. Good luck!
 
Removing drivers this old from painted baffles usually requires judicious use of a heat-gun or hair-dryer. Then a very then putty knife. It will pop loose! I just did a 50-year-old pair of L100 Century in the original in-line version. Been there, done that.
 
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