Infinity Qb crossover with electrolytic capacitor in tweeter circuit

Bazip

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Hi, I have a pair of Infinity Qb speakers (first owner, bought them in 1979) and never replaced the capacitors.
Now, after 46 years, I thought It would make sence to at least check if updating the capacitors does brings anything (my Luxman L81 amplifier of the same age is getting a complete revision with recapping of all electrolytic capacitors anyway).
Searching the internet I found that Infinity used a lot of different parts for the crossovers of the Qb series.
The ones I found seem to use film capacitors of 6.8 μF for the tweeter. I assume that these are the original capacitors, because it is sometimes stated that you better not replace them because it impacts the true "Infinity sound".
Now the point is that my crossover uses an electrolytic capacitor of 6.8 μF (bottom right in below picture).
I read everywhere that replacing an electrolytic capacitor with a film capacitor reduces the ESR and you better compensate for that using a resistor, because the speaker designer most probably took the ESR into account for the crossover design.
Well, I have the impression that the speaker designer of Infinity did not take it into account, because non of the crossovers with film capacitors in the tweeter circuit use a resistor in series. You could argue that the ones with a potentiometer in the tweeter circuit do have a resistor in series, but they are the older design, so it is not to compensate for ESR after replacing an electrolytic.
It looks like Infinity didn't worry to much about the impact of the ESR on sound quality and used both electrolytic and film capacitors purely based on availablity (or cost?).
My conclusion from this: I can exchange the electrolytic for a film capacitor and don't have to worry too much about the impact on sound quality.
Am I correct?

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The difference in ESR should be pretty minor...likely within a couple of tenths of an ohm, but it's possible that it's higher, depending on the actual ESR of the caps used. Generally I prefer the clearer sound of the film caps, but YMMV. You could always add a small series resistor if it sounds louder.
 
I realize that I can always put a resistor in series to compensate for the difference in ESR between film and electrolytic cap, although according to the maximum values for ESR provide by Jantzen for their eleCap (raw foil), the ESR is not that small (max. 2.34 Ohm for 6.8 μF) for electrolytics.
The data sheet for their premium-Elko smooth foil electrolytic caps provides even substantial higher typical values (typ. 11.7 Ohm for 6.8 μF), but that must be a typo (probably a factor 10 wrong).
Anyway, Infinity seems to have randomely used film or electrolytic caoacitors in the tweeter crossover circuit of the Qb speaker series without compensating for ESR when film caps were used.
This makes you wonder what the intended Qb sound is if there are such differences in the crossover design.

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