Itunes Import Settings

Cylontymany

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What are the Best Setting when importing downloaded music files. I have been leaving the settings alone with the ACC encoder? Now the other question: For example when I download HQ music files off of Youtube they sound loud and clear and great but when I load them into Itunes the sound goes down? And they sound not so great. Any suggestions as to do this right? better?
 
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There is no such thing as high resolution music files from YouTube. Not sure if that is what you meant by "HQ". YouTube maxs out at 256kbps files (MP3 quality) per a Google search. Have no idea why the HQ files sound different when being played back via iTunes.
 
Are you loading them into a mac or PC version of iTunes. The 2 versions do vary somewhat.
When I load CDs and such into my M1 Max Mac Studio , I use the Apple Lossless Encoder (automatic) setting ...
 
iTunes was replaced with the Music application years ago. However both offer Apple Lossless option that retains sound quality equal to AFLAC and the metadata information. Regretfully, I just discovered my large iTunes library can’t be imported into Music app on my new M3 iMac :biggrin:
 
iTunes was replaced with the Music application years ago. However both offer Apple Lossless option that retains sound quality equal to AFLAC and the metadata information. Regretfully, I just discovered my large iTunes library can’t be imported into Music app on my new M3 iMac :biggrin:
iTunes "screwed the pooch" years ago when it tried to force everyone to switch from iTunes to Apple Music. Apple Music wants to upload your complete library to the cloud. Mine would never upload either because it was WAY too large. iTunes is basically useless to me now even though it is still on my old PC, but not the recently acquired new one.
 
So you don't choose the MP4 video option, right, instead you select one of the higher bit-rate MP3 options? As per this image -
mygomp-MP3.jpg
 
Aafter I download them to my desktop and play them before I load to Itunes they sound great. But once I move them into my Itunes library the sound level goes down.
 
OK, you have two problems.
1. Those MP3 download options listed on mygomp3.com imply that YouTube is hosting those MP3 stream options - and this is not true.
It's important to understand that YouTube videos are natively in MP4 or WebM container formats, with video codecs H.264 and/or VP9, and audio codecs AAC and/or Opus.
So when you see MP3 download options it means that the download website is re-encoding (transcoding) the original AAC or Opus audio files hosted by YouTube.

At this point it's important to understand the basic principles of compression; AAC, Opus, and MP3 are all lossy codecs. Lossy compression is OK ... provided you only use it once in your audio production chain. In your situation you are sourcing an audio file which was AAC or Opus in its original state, but your download website is re-encoding it to MP3. That's bad - the website is doing a lossy encoding of a lossy encoding. Sure, you can specify the higher encode-rate of 320kbps, but that simply means the MP3 encode will lose less information than one of the lower data-rate MP3 encodings.

2. Next you are importing this downloaded MP3 file into iTunes, with iTunes' import settings configured for AAC compression - so iTunes is doing a lossy encoding of a lossy encoding of a lossy encoding. Ouch! 3 stages of lossy compression. No wonder it doesn't sound good.
This second problem could be overcome by changing iTunes import settings to MP3 - then the import would proceed without further degradation ... however the first problem remains - a re-compression from AAC/Opus to MP3.

The full and proper solution is to download the YouTube audio file in one of its native states - in your case, preferably AAC. And for this all you need to do is use a better download website! One that automatically determines all possible file download options available for any YouTube site, then offer all of those options. The good one I know of is TubeRipper
https://tuberipper.com/24/
I have attached a screenshot which shows the different audio file download choices (for Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit on YouTube). I will briefly explain the options;

- m4a, MP4, ogg, and WebM - these are all container formats for the available AAC and/or Opus streams. ogg and WebM are somewhat non-mainstream, and certainly will not be recognised by iTunes to import from. m4a is a simplified form of MP4 - designed to contain audio-only, instead of video+audio.
So m4a is the best option for most people, and especially for you since iTunes will import it without any form of transcoding, assuming iTunes is configured for AAC encoding.

- FLAC is lossless compression, and WAV is fully uncompressed, so these would be OK - TubeRipper will uncompress the AAC or Opus streams and store this data without further degradation ... however it's a waste of file space, since the file size will increase massively, for no increase in audio quality. You can't put back audio data which was lost during the original compression - that's a basic principle of lossy compression.

- MP3 is the worst possible choice, since TubeRipper will re-compress the AAC/Opus stream into MP3, as mentioned earlier. The only reason you would choose MP3 is if you have a device or system which can only recognise MP3, and not AAC.
 

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Thanks so much for this info. But what is the best version to download off of tuberipper and what import settings for Itunes? MP3 and custom 320? The majority of my files came from other free sources 320 and not files from Youtube until they went bye bye. So I discovered mygomp3.com to get music files off Youtube and have been using AAC encoder in Itunes import settings.
 
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The majority of my files came from other free sources 320
I will guess that means MP3 files. So it appears your other (non-YouTube) music collection is MP3 ... or should I say was MP3, because you said your iTunes is configured to import as AAC, so all of those MP3 files would have been converted to AAC when they were first imported into iTunes.
In an ideal world it would probably be a good idea to (re)configure iTunes to import as MP3, delete the existing iTunes library, then import all of those original MP3 files again ...
but I don't suppose you have access to the original files? And this could be a very time-consuming project.

So OK, your iTunes library presently exists as AAC files. That's a good reason to download any/all YouTube audio files in their native AAC state.
The best version for you to download is m4a, 44 kHz, maximum file size available (4.3 MB in the case of the Nirvana clip above).

Go ahead and try it now. I'm sure it will sound way better now.
 
hjames if I switch to apple lossless will that affect my existing library?
It only affects the new songs you load. I have a mix of various quality in my 2TB music library ... some are pop songs I bought from Amazon or downloaded elsewhere, some are songs I converted from FLAC files using MAX or similar tools. But CDs I load directly from disc use those settings.
 
Importing audio files into iTunes using lossless compression (ALAC in this case) is beneficial if your source files are uncompressed/losslessly compressed (such as Audio CD's as in hjames case).
But using lossless compression is of no benefit if your source files have already had lossy compression applied. In this case you should aim to import audio files into iTunes unchanged, in their native state.
 
I have saved all my music in a separate
file on my desktop. So m4a 44khz using tuberipper and mp3 encoder in my import settings in Itunes. Got it. Thanks
 
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