Suddenly..old console stereos are costing a LOT of money!!

I think it's because people research what they are selling, and what is one of the first places that pops up on google?

Why this place of course with someone bragging how they stole some console with a bad ass amp and speakers in it from some stupid guy that knew no better.... and everyone else dropping their jaw or drooling in the following threads..
 
birddog said:
I have no idea of how to tell if they are Jensen's, they are still mounted in the console. The speaker chassis and magnet are gold colored, if that helps. They are marked Motorola, and there are what I imagine are part numbers printed on them as well.

How do I ID these as something sourced from someone besides Motorola? :scratch2:
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Well in my case they were marked as being Jensen, but mine aren't the gold ones........ I have seen those on Ebay, Though.

I saw the amp in another thread, and it looks like your console is a higher end model than what I found.

Jensen's EIA code is 220, so you'll likely find a 220xxx along with a P15# on the woofer.

Here's the website I normally use to look up EIA codes
http://www.webervst.com/codes.html
 
Thanks Scuzzer! I'll grab the numbers off them next trip out to the van, where the console is residing temporarily, and see what I come up with!
 
heekma said:
Within that already small subset of "new" tube enthusiasts is an even smaller subset of enthusiasts buying and restoring vintage commercial amps.

And within small subset of a small subset is an even smaller subset buying consoles to use the tube amps inside.
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I disagree with tube console people being a subset of people restoring vintage commercial amps. I've had several console amps pass through my hands, but I've never found anything commercial. A console showing up at Goodwill or an estate sale is far more likely than a commercial amp showing up in the same setting.
 
At least some of it is morons trying to make a buck. For fun last summer I answered an ad on CL for a console.. 'itz from da 50's and gotz tubez!' is what the ad said. He only wanted $300 for it. He posted a pic of it. The 8-track was a nice touch, very advanced for the 50's. I asked if it had tubes. he said 'Oh yeah, big ones!' Since he lived near a buddy of mine, I wasn't going to be out the gas money for having fun with this tool. We went over to look at it. It was definitly solid state and mid 70's. I asked to see the tubes and he pulled the back off of it and pointed to some of the larger caps. I pulled a 12ax7 out of my pocket and said this is what a tube looks like. He looked at me funny and accused me of showing him a light bulb and said I didn't know what the hell I was talking about...
 
birddog said:
Got the Moto home and pulled the amp, it's an SK43M, with the HS-35B chassis. Tube compliment is 4 ECL82/6BM8's, a 12AX7, and a 6CA4. The ECL82's are Moto branded Mullards. It's a three channel amp, which I guess were popular in the Moto's. Had Moto 'Golden Voice" drivers in it, a large woofer, and a pair of mid/tweets on each side. No tuner, it was just a stereo changer installed. cabinet is a little rough, gonna see if I can find the cabinet a home, or it ends up going in the pile for the 'Viking Funeral" party atMarkus's place!

There are pics I posted over in 'Tubes' if you are interested in a look-see!
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Pulling the guts out of a vintage console that was around for over 40 years. I hate when that happens.:no:
 
Goodwill_HiFi said:
Well in my case they were marked as being Jensen, but mine aren't the gold ones........ I have seen those on Ebay, Though.

I saw the amp in another thread, and it looks like your console is a higher end model than what I found.

Jensen's EIA code is 220, so you'll likely find a 220xxx along with a P15# on the woofer.

Here's the website I normally use to look up EIA codes
http://www.webervst.com/codes.html
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Yup, the woofer is a Jensen, #22038 P12R There is a long string of numbers and letters as well printed on the perimiter, which I did not bother writing down, since the other #'s ID'ed it.

The smaller drivers only have 'Motorola" & 'Golden Voice' printed on the magnet, no numbers I could see anywhere. The color is different as well, looks like Cad plating, where as the woofer frame looks painted in a golden color. Hard to get a good look, as they are still mounted, and the console is in the back off the van, with tinted glass and curtains, and a cloudy sky, not much light reaching in where the drivers are!
 
birddog said:
Yup, the woofer is a Jensen, #22038 P12R There is a long string of numbers and letters as well printed on the perimiter, which I did not bother writing down, since the other #'s ID'ed it.

The smaller drivers only have 'Motorola" & 'Golden Voice' printed on the magnet, no numbers I could see anywhere. The color is different as well, looks like Cad plating, where as the woofer frame looks painted in a golden color. Hard to get a good look, as they are still mounted, and the console is in the back off the van, with tinted glass and curtains, and a cloudy sky, not much light reaching in where the drivers are!
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Oh, it's only a 12" woofer! Well, the P12R is supposed to be pretty good for guitar use...... not that I'd know first hand, as I'm no guitar player.

The smaller drivers are normally cad plated.

Maybe you could buy a flashlight next :yes: .......always good to have when you're looking at stuff...... even more important than a screw driver in many cases.
 
kaplang said:
Pulling the guts out of a vintage console that was around for over 40 years. I hate when that happens.:no:
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Not that I have to explain myself nor answer to you, but the cabinet is toast, it came from a wet basement, and was sitting outside in the weather for the last month while the owner was looking for someone to buy it. I have done my part to find good homes for consoles that were being tossed out, and were in salvagable condition, and have found homes for the parts that were still usable. The parts from this one already have a home, even before I pulled them out.

Check the AudioKarma banner... It reads "All Audio. No Attitude"
 
birddog said:
Not that I have to explain myself nor answer to you, but the cabinet is toast, it came from a wet basement, and was sitting outside in the weather for the last month while the owner was looking for someone to buy it. I have done my part to find good homes for consoles that were being tossed out, and were in salvagable condition, and have found homes for the parts that were still usable. The parts from this one already have a home, even before I pulled them out.

Check the AudioKarma banner... It reads "All Audio. No Attitude"
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No attitude here. Just a statement. Nothing more.
 
The question is: Are they selling for more, or are people just ASKING for more? I have noticed that while it has gotten harder to sell nice vintage gear around here and get fair value, all local sites as well as eBay are full of junk people are hoping (dreaming?) to get unrealistic money for. People see one true classic sell for a lot of money somehwere in the world to one guy and figure their busted 8-track is vintage gold.
 
Timely thread. Yesterday I was given a Magnavox Astro-Sonic console with 4 speed made in England changer, with what appears to be solid state electronics, a horn tweeter or mid, and a 12" wogger, I think.

Horn has Magnavox stamped on it with the following: 580088-1 under that, RP-109B C8002-7. Wogger has Magnavox stamped on it plus 5811211 and under that 137 647. Looked on EIA link and figure horn may be a Jenson, wogger a CTS.......

I have not attempted to power it up as I have no Variac or lite bulb deal! It needs some cleaning on the electronics and changer faces. Needs a needle for sure. Cosmetically it is in remarkable condition.

It is in Kings Mountain, NC and available for free to anyone who wants to pick it up or meet me somewhere in the Charlotte area as I am there frequently. Can get pictures tomorrow.....

Help me recycle this old unit......

10ear
 
The renewed interest in "mid century" stuff is really what's driving it IMO. Some of these are decent pieces of furniture of course, and some have decent electronics, but most are worth nowhere near what people are asking.
 
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