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Why do Hondas get more miles?
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leesonic
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Who says they do? My wife has a 96 Cavalier with 270,000 miles and it STILL runs good. It's still on the original motor, transmission, clutch, suspension, etc. the usual maintenance items like plugs, wires, brake components and tires have all been changed. Muffler system lasted until earlier this year. Oil has been changed every 3000 miles.
Lee.
Lee.
My wifes 98 civic has 198000 on it.... Although in that time we've dropped in a new engine block and transmission (But they didn't cost too much, about $2000 altogether)
I think they're fairly well designed, they're also very light which cuts down on wear and tear and replacement parts are very cheap...
But I'd advise against getting a Honda with 110-150k on it. You are likely to have to replace something.. I'd look for something with lower miles, even if it's a little older.
I think they're fairly well designed, they're also very light which cuts down on wear and tear and replacement parts are very cheap...
But I'd advise against getting a Honda with 110-150k on it. You are likely to have to replace something.. I'd look for something with lower miles, even if it's a little older.
Any car should last if you take good care of it and don't beat on the motor. Honda's just have great engines. I have a 90 Accord and it burns no oil and still gets me 34mpg highway with the AC cranking cold. Older ones including this one, I've owned always seemed to eat exhaust systems though. I go through a muffler almost every other year. Other than that bulletproof.
J English
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Love my '96 Civic with 130,000 miles. Had it about 5 years, bought used salvage title at 103,000 (slight front end hit had totaled the car). No major problems with it. Engine light is permanently on because it was a California car and the Cat/O2 sensor is all screwy, but no complaints...I will probably stick with Honda for my next one, only one that could lure me away is a Prius or a used Corolla...
My 1982 Honda Prelude was simply indestructible. Forged internals for a 78 hp engine!
She was rear ended with over 300k on her. Drove it home, but it was ruined.
She was rear ended with over 300k on her. Drove it home, but it was ruined.
243k on my Lincoln Mark VII. The original untouched 302 still burns no oil and runs like a watch. My Towncar's original 302 had wiped out bearings and burned a fair amount of oil at 125k. The Mark VII was well cared for, the Towncar was used as a farm truck and largely neglected. Its all about the maintenance.
Beatnik
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My wife put a motor in her civic at close to 100k, changed oil at 3-4k miles. She drives like hell and ignores problems until the vehicle actually stops running.
I put 237K on a 1993 Ranger pickup before someone totaled it for me. Put 280k+ on the next one, a 2000 model, and it's still going as a back up. Currently have 211k on my 2006 model. Change the oil on all of these regularly at 9k. IMHO 3k oil changes are a scam to sell oil, engines run much cleaner than they did in the past.
I put 237K on a 1993 Ranger pickup before someone totaled it for me. Put 280k+ on the next one, a 2000 model, and it's still going as a back up. Currently have 211k on my 2006 model. Change the oil on all of these regularly at 9k. IMHO 3k oil changes are a scam to sell oil, engines run much cleaner than they did in the past.
While I agree that every 3k oil changes is wasteful, and probably a gimmick, most honda engines i've known die due to lack of timing belt change. In an interference style motor, a failed timing belt = ruined motor.
cool9
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My 98 Pontiac Sunfire (140K mi.) is completely rusted and engine is about to drop out. I just see more used Hondas between 125K-200K for sale than any American cars. And at the same prices for used American cars in 85K-125K range.
Off-topic: Ever get new drums and/or rotors only to have them warp within 6 mths? That's what I got from Pep Boys.
Off-topic: Ever get new drums and/or rotors only to have them warp within 6 mths? That's what I got from Pep Boys.
Hardly an urban legend. And your experience with that Chrysler is definitely not representative of the breed.
I've had countless Honda's. Never had an engine failure, all had over 200k.
Depends on the car. My 92 celica - has about 135,000 on it... But come about 4k I can tell it needs an oil change, immediately drives and feels better. (Have had no problems at all with that car, will be buying Toyotas from here on out)
ConradH
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Here in Upstate NY almost all cars rust to destruction before they hit 200k. The best I've done is about 160-180k with a Nissan and a Honda Accord. The engines are always the last thing to go. OTOH, my Mazda3 will be lucky to see 150k due to rust and continuous stupid repair problem with things that never fail on other cars. Most expensive car I've ever owned. The Honda went through its entire life with just oil changes and minor service.
leesonic
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Does the oil come out the same color as it went in, even after ONLY 3000 miles? No. So $20 for a gallon of oil and a filter (even at today's prices) is cheap preventative maintenance.
Though I hate shopping at Wal-Mart, their SuperTec oil used to be somewhat of a bargain. I did an alarm job at the Exxon (I think) plant here in NJ, and there were pallets of SuperTec and Exxon oil being moved around by robots. I asked the maintenance guy there if there was any different blend/formula for the SuperTec oil versus their own Exxon oil. He said it was the same stuff.
Lee.
Bstable
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Getting a zillion miles out of a car isn't anything to brag about if you have replaced just about everything on it at some point. Well engineered cars assembled by people that care about what they are assembling is the key. A well engineered car that is maintained properly will outlast a poorly engineered/assembled car that is maintained properly. I have always bought cars that had great track records, and I have very rarely had to take my cars to get fixed. Yes, I maintain them properly which is why EVERY car I have owned has reached the 200,000+ mile mark. Exceptions being cars that I traded in before ther time because of an accident. I know people that think their cars are great even though they are always spending money on them. These same people think that these are normal issues, and go right out and buy the same make/brand again and again.
There is a reason why Hondas, Toyotas, and a few other makes retain high resale value even at milage points where other makes are near their death beds. It isn't funny math.
There is a reason why Hondas, Toyotas, and a few other makes retain high resale value even at milage points where other makes are near their death beds. It isn't funny math.
electroking
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You could say it's a combination of good design, quality materials and fine
workmanship. I drive Toyotas and seem to be experiencing something similar
(1987 Camry driven to 211K miles, 2002 Corolla currently at 159K and kicking).
Regards.
workmanship. I drive Toyotas and seem to be experiencing something similar
(1987 Camry driven to 211K miles, 2002 Corolla currently at 159K and kicking).
Regards.
Beatnik
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I don't know, I don't do the oil changes. I get plenty of miles from them so what does it matter ? Don't drive like an ass either.
I buy these trucks to drive, not work on all the time, but I do the major stuff myself with labor so high anymore. I just did front rotors/bearings/pads and a tie-rod end on the 06 in the driveway last week. Put on a new coil a few months back and a radiator last year. Did the timing belt, power steering pump and alternator on the 00 last year and ball joints/control arms before that. Still have the old oil from the belt change sitting in the garage, thats why I'd rather let someone else hassle with that.
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