jamset
Active Member
That’s not flattering at all, the reason I’m considering them is because I thought they could go real low.:tears:
Help buying NEW speakers
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That’s not flattering at all, the reason I’m considering them is because I thought they could go real low.:tears:
johnr66
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My home builts are designed for an F3 point at 34 Hz. In room response, they play down to 27 Hz with some extension to the low twenties. Human hearing rolls off quite a bit that low.
I've built some massive speakers with big drivers that were tuned to only 20 Hz. I could feel the walls breath at 16Hz, but really couldn't hear much. Just seems a wasted effort.
Coytee
Super Member
Regardless of what brand/model you buy, if you end up buying new then Kudo's to you!!
If everyone bought used then our economy might end up in the dumpers....:scratch2:
I've bought all my speakers (Klipsch/EV/ESS/Superscope) new.
I understand the logic of buying used & saving a few dollars however, I also understand the logic of supporting the company which buying used doesn't accomplish.
If everyone bought used then our economy might end up in the dumpers....:scratch2:
I've bought all my speakers (Klipsch/EV/ESS/Superscope) new.
I understand the logic of buying used & saving a few dollars however, I also understand the logic of supporting the company which buying used doesn't accomplish.
michaelhigh
mind's eye music
+1 on Tannoys. There are many models to choose from, and they are to England what Klipsch are to us here in the States. They are very expensive and generally (especially in England) highly-coveted the same way JBL's are here. I had a pair of 6" concentric cone biampable studio monitors , and I traded them for a long-gone Mesa-Boogie bass cabinet. I regret that impulsive move now.
I would be inclined to find a fine woodworker in your area and have them make cabs for for good drivers and crossovers. There are many horns out there that fit 2" compression drivers and very good woofers too. So $1000 for the horns and CDs, $1000 for the woofers, $1000 for the cabs, $500 for crossovers. In each case all those prices are high except for maybe the crossovers. For the money you have to work with, you could end up with speakers that are FAAAAAAR better than the Cornwalls.
Are you talking about these, or the completely different Walsh 1?
http://www.ohmspeakers.com/images/I-med.jpg
They are a bit of an oddball design, and they should be priced a good bit cheaper than you'd find a classic Klipsch. If you listen to them and like them, it's a cool speaker to have. While you're in the US, I think you should look for a large model of ADS, JBL 4430 (there's a pair in new jersey), or JBL L300. These should be well-suited for the preferences you've described here and I think in another thread from a while back.
Here is what I'd look at:
The ejmlc300 horn with a 2" JBL compression driver body and Barillium (sp) diaphragm from True Extent and the TDM15 woofer from Aespeakers. Then start with a simple 1st order crossover and stuff it all in a beautiful Columbian hand crafted cabinet.
http://www.horns.pl/ejmlc300.html
http://www.aespeakers.com/drivers.php?driver_id=4
The third picture is what Cosmos did using the same components except he had his horns turned locally. Then a local woodworking made the cabinets. His system sound really great and is flat from about 30hz to 20khz or so.
For the price you have to work with, you could do much much better than the Cwalls.
The ejmlc300 horn with a 2" JBL compression driver body and Barillium (sp) diaphragm from True Extent and the TDM15 woofer from Aespeakers. Then start with a simple 1st order crossover and stuff it all in a beautiful Columbian hand crafted cabinet.
http://www.horns.pl/ejmlc300.html
http://www.aespeakers.com/drivers.php?driver_id=4
The third picture is what Cosmos did using the same components except he had his horns turned locally. Then a local woodworking made the cabinets. His system sound really great and is flat from about 30hz to 20khz or so.
For the price you have to work with, you could do much much better than the Cwalls.
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jamset
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I talked to someone there a month or so ago and they went from 7 or 8 employees to 1 guy. They may have changed....at least I hope so.
jamset
Active Member
Cosmos set up seems very nice
Your advice is tempting, but remember this would be my first speakers ever so maybe that project is way over my understanding . Thank you anyways
I agree Sim, they are fine sounding drivers. I have 2 TD15s in my garage that need repair and I can't hardly get a hold of the guy. I am reluctant to go any further with them. I was also told that if the magnet has shifted even in the slightest, they can't be fixed but he would not tell me how to check it.
skywave-rider
Slumming in Akihabara
DJ,
Have you had a chance to hear the ejmlc300 horn?
I have a set of TD12S woofers on order in the group buy. Finger's crossed.
Have you had a chance to hear the ejmlc300 horn?
I have a set of TD12S woofers on order in the group buy. Finger's crossed.
I've not heard them Sky but I have talked to folks that have them and also have had other well known horns like the Edgars and TADs. All the comments were very positive. Looking at the polar responses and freq graphs, I can believe it.
I was going to get in on the group buy but work changed...once again and I decided to hold off.
Edit: There is a group buy for those and many other horns from Europe over on diyaudio. I'll post link when I find it.
I was going to get in on the group buy but work changed...once again and I decided to hold off.
Edit: There is a group buy for those and many other horns from Europe over on diyaudio. I'll post link when I find it.
