ADVENT. To double or not . .

Raphael

Raphael

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ADVENT. To stack or not . .

I just picked up some very nice looking Advents. I toured google to find alot of the usual historical stuff regarding HK and his pioneering genius while with Acoustic Research, KLH, Advent, and later Cambrige Soundworks but was unable to dig up very much about my latest aquisition. See a good article here: http://www.onhifi.com/features/20020215.htm

My speakers are badged with ADVENT on the front and the rear post plate has THE ADVENT LOUDSPEAKER without the additional printing found on the original large advents that said 'Desinged by Henry Kloss'. I surmised that these are the latest version of his large 2-ways because they have the more finished tweets and the cabinets have solid wood front edging that is well rounded and more modern looking.

The meat of my inquiry is that I read alot about the amazing sonic characteristics when the original Large's were doubled (one placed inverted on top of the other to form one channel) but don't know if it holds water for the newer design. Has anyone done this with the version I have purchased? If so, should I be looking for another set to get set up?

Thx for any help here . . --Ralphie

PS. I think these were made in '84.
 

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I tried stacking a pair of 2/Ws with the same year model you have (cabs are the less expensive ones with veneer,sharper edges,metal flanges) and it sounded,well,terrible. Could have been the phase all %$#^up as well,it being my first attempt. Positive,ground,series and pararell??..I`ll get it right one day. :yes:
 
Go for it. Pal of mine has that exact same speaker, but just in a Utility cabinet, and they sound fanfriggin'tastic stacked.
Tom
 
Definately double stack Advents. I run them with a pioneer 1010 and a Sherwood 9910...have even run them with a Kenwood 6200. They really are amazing.
Larry
 
What you have are "New Advent" loudspeakers, which are improved versions of the original Advents. They should work just like the originals when stacked.
 
The imaging is surperior when stacked. I own the exact model that you do, and they are incredible stacked. If your room is too small or acoustically inert, you may not get all of the effect.
 
You all rock! Thanks for providing the exact bits of info I needed.

Now . . the hunt for another pair! I'm keen to try 'em out due to the online hubaloo about them being a different animal when stacked and rivaling the multi-thousand $ and large audiophile cones of the day.

I do have to 'coon 'em first though. (Only $12 with shipping for Advent 10" rings and glue kit on ePay--Yippii!!!)
 
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Good luck on your hunt. I looked for a thrift/yardsale pair for two years trying to avoid e-bay before I randomly stopped by the worst GW in town on a Sunday (because the SalArmy down the road was closed) and there they stood. Also just happened to be two weeks after I told my wife no more speakers, and that I was only bringing home Large Advents, AR-9s, and DQ-10s.
Well, 3 weeks later I'm down to AR-9s.
 
Yea, I know they are lacking when in pairs--but it is said that when Advents are stacked (unlike the hit and miss of other boxes) they are tuned so well that it is a sobering experience. That is why I'll only keep 'em if I can find another set.
 
Raphael said:
Yea, I know they are lacking when in pairs--but it is said that when Advents are stacked (unlike the hit and miss of other boxes) they are tuned so well that it is a sobering experience. That is why I'll only keep 'em if I can find another set.
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Lacking in pairs??? I hardly find this the case, but then I have been listening to a pair of Advents ever since I was born so what do I know?

pmsummer said:
Yes, do it. In series, not parallel, and not A+B. You'll never look back.
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Wouldn't this give an impedance of 16 ohms? My receivers only accepts 4-8 ohms.
 
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pmsummer said:
Yes, do it. In series, not parallel, and not A+B. You'll never look back.
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That would depend on your amp. I use A+B no problem. That has been with 2 different Sansui's (551 and a 6060) and a Tandberg TR-1020.

Also did it with other speakers with the AU717 2 years ago for a short while.
 
The answer is YES, you can get the same improvement from the upgraded Advent as the original Advent by stacking them.

BTW, I worked at the shop in Atlanta that first demoed this back in the 70s. (Reported by JWC in The Absolute Sound)
 
ExJxC said:
Lacking in pairs??? I hardly find this the case, but then I have been listening to a pair of Advents ever since I was born so what do I know?
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True . . true . . (must compare to better speakers)

ExJxC said:
Wouldn't this give an impedance of 16 ohms? My receivers only accepts 4-8 ohms.
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True again but to be accurate . . your output device can do alot more than 8 ohms. The 4 - 8 ohm rating is simply the design sweetspot that provides the greatest sonic volume (efficiency) for loads of between 4 and 8 ohms while still operating within the outputs limits (heat dissipation capabilities, etc.).

I, personally, would not exceed 16 ohms due to the inherent loss of frequency in any circuit that has multiple resistive components and also due to interference that has a modulating effect on the current feed. This however only becomes a problem at high ohms and has no effect at 8/16 ohm ratios or even at 4/16 ohms.
 
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outlawmws said:
That would depend on your amp. I use A+B no problem. That has been with 2 different Sansui's (551 and a 6060) and a Tandberg TR-1020.
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Wow! With a TR-1020! I've not pushed my TR-1040, not being real sure how strong those "40" wpc were. I guess I had nothing to worry about. :thmbsp:
 
pmsummer said:
Wow! With a TR-1020! I've not pushed my TR-1040, not being real sure how strong those "40" wpc were. I guess I had nothing to worry about. :thmbsp:
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Ummm not sure which Reciver your atributing the 40 WPC to

TR-1020 = 40 WPC
TR-1040 = 60 WPC...
 
The TR-1040 is/was 40 wpc @ 8 Ohms, 60 wpc @ 4 ohms. By habit, I always think in 8 Ohm ratings.
 
Of course, after you have a set of double Advents, you may get the hankering for a triple set like I did. :D :thmbsp:

Actually, I had three pair and I just thought I'd try triples because I hated to see the third pair laying around unused. Incredible! :music:

Doug
 
Doug G. said:
Of course, after you have a set of double Advents, you may get the hankering for a triple set like I did. :D :thmbsp:

Actually, I had three pair and I just thought I'd try triples because I hated to see the third pair laying around unused. Incredible! :music:

Doug
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Share the wealth and send a pair my way!!!!!!!
 
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