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Zilch's AK Design Collaborative - Econowave Speaker

Im at another stumbling block here. I have recieved my XO boards from jackgiff and got everything almost ready to put back together(still waiting on waveguides). My question is since Im not using a JBL woofer and when I hook the woofers Im using to a 1.5 battery(+ to +) they move out. It is my understanding that I need to reverse the connections. Now would I reverse the connection to the woofer or to the HF driver? I believe ive seen that you should reverse the connections to the HF but since the woofer is the problem why wouldnt I reverse it? Reversing the connections to the HF dont make sence to me but Im clueless on this stuff.

A few posts on this back several pages but IIRC it does not matter if you switch the HF or the LF just switch one of them.
 
My question is since Im not using a JBL woofer and when I hook the woofers Im using to a 1.5 battery(+ to +) they move out. It is my understanding that I need to reverse the connections. Now would I reverse the connection to the woofer or to the HF driver? I believe ive seen that you should reverse the connections to the HF but since the woofer is the problem why wouldnt I reverse it? Reversing the connections to the HF dont make sence to me but Im clueless on this stuff.
Your woofer is correct, so you want to connect it according to the markings on the board to conform with industry standard polarity.

It's the tweeter markings I screwed up, so you need to reverse its connection polarity.... :yes:

(1.58mh -> 30ohm for 3Khz)

Should I change this? I wonder if I shouldn't cross that high.
I confirm 3.022 kHz, and that's too high by my view. In this instance, I don't believe we want the filters overlapping that much; we just want a relatively constant load on the amp.

Drop your R to 10 Ohms 'til you get more inductance in there.... :yes:
 
Magnetbox

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btw, for last few months or so, i've been mod'ing magnavox amps, and i really think they match well with these Ewave speakers - dead quiet. i personally think those two (Ewave & maggie amps) are the most enlightening things happened to me in last 3-4 years of my AK life.:thmbsp::thmbsp::thmbsp:

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I have the same Magnetbox 88-02-00. It's not my main amp, but I like it too. I also have a 197-29 and a 9302-00, both of which need restoration.

At home I never play too loudly, so the Magnetbox isn't strained.

I like how you've packaged the chassis. It looks great.:thmbsp:
 
I have the same Magnetbox 88-02-00. It's not my main amp, but I like it too. I also have a 197-29 and a 9302-00, both of which need restoration.

At home I never play too loudly, so the Magnetbox isn't strained.

I like how you've packaged the chassis. It looks great.:thmbsp:

i love my eico hf-87, but with the ewave horns and altec woofers, i did have some noise issues - specially when i listen to them only about 10 feet away. even though it was completely rebuilt, still noise when the volume is low.

the magnavox on the other hand, is completely noise less. it is a perfect match for the ewave horns. i thought AK'ers with ewave horns should try it out since they don't cost too much - actually less than half of what ewave costed me. oh, and i use passive attenuator. also building other maggies since i like this one so much.
 
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+/- 3 dB on stock E'Wave XO; with ~4 dB more comp, looks like it can get to +/- 1.5 dB:

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I have decided to try this e-wave thing on my hpm 100's.I know this
has been asked before but could I not buy an off the shelf 2-way
finished crossover from PE and use an L-pad to fine tune the horn.
I dont have any experience building crossovers.
 
One of the first I built, as well. :thmbsp:

Yes, get your pics posted so we can put you on the "Official E'Waver" list.... :yes:

Here is my first build. Way too good and way to simple for ~ $300 invested (unless you factor in the time to absorb all the great stuff on this thread:eek:)

The next step is to measure. any recommendations for a simple/econo pc based approach? I have the mic preamp, sound card and computer.
 

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I have decided to try this e-wave thing on my hpm 100's.I know this
has been asked before but could I not buy an off the shelf 2-way
finished crossover from PE and use an L-pad to fine tune the horn.
I dont have any experience building crossovers.


Definitely out of the question. You won't get any compensation for the CD waveguide that way and it's bound to be an epic failure.
 
I have decided to try this e-wave thing on my hpm 100's.I know this
has been asked before but could I not buy an off the shelf 2-way
finished crossover from PE and use an L-pad to fine tune the horn.
I dont have any experience building crossovers.

What Dave said.... :thumbsdn:
 
I have decided to try this e-wave thing on my hpm 100's.I know this
has been asked before but could I not buy an off the shelf 2-way
finished crossover from PE and use an L-pad to fine tune the horn.
I dont have any experience building crossovers.

The day I received the drivers and waveguides, I happened to have a pair of Yamaha NS-500 that I had just acquired with bad tweeters. For yucks, giggles and reasons beyond explanation, I hooked the drivers direct to the crossovers that are 2000 Hz crossovers. While they played and could have passed as a speaker.. they did not exhibit any characteristics they are extolled for here.

Long and short.. you could, but you won't like it and it will be a waste of money for you as you will always wonder why your EWGs sound like crap...:yes:

Perhaps someone here would build a pair for you for a small fee if you feel completely unable to do so?
 
Here is my first build. Way too good and way to simple for ~ $300 invested (unless you factor in the time to absorb all the great stuff on this thread :eek:)
Those look mighty familiar! :thmbsp:

How did you handle the venting?

http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2260584#post2260584

The next step is to measure. any recommendations for a simple/econo pc based approach? I have the mic preamp, sound card and computer.
Several members have worked up rudimentary measurement systems using the R/S SPL meter as mic and free downloadable software. There's some exposition of that in my KLH Seventeen thread, as I recall; others here can better advise you on this.

I'm certainly pleased that there's a growng interest in objective performance assessment here on AK. :yes:


Perhaps a good Megawave box.
Spec says 31" wide. :scratch2:

[Fits VOTT A7 also, looks like.... ;) ]
 
900ss,

Get a behringer ECM8000 and find yourself some RTA software. You can likely find demo software that will allow you to take measurements.

If you build a Wallin Jig, you can use speaker workshop to do most all your speaker building measurements.
 
Those look mighty familiar! :thmbsp:

How did you handle the venting?

No vents yet, but planning the garage add on that should also look familiar. Do you have dimensions on the additions you made?

Several members have worked up rudimentary measurement systems using the R/S SPL meter as mic and free downloadable software. There's some exposition of that in my KLH Seventeen thread, as I recall; others here can better advise you on this.


I will take a look at that thanks.
 
I have decided to try this e-wave thing on my hpm 100's.I know this
has been asked before but could I not buy an off the shelf 2-way
finished crossover from PE and use an L-pad to fine tune the horn.
I dont have any experience building crossovers.

Mate, I had the same trepidation before embarking on an inaugural crossover building journey. Totally empathise with you. But it's dead easy. Kegger has gone to great lengths to provide all the necessary parts ordering and assembly information- if you can solder, you can do it! The HPM-100 woofers sound terrific. Everything you need is here: http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185752
 
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