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The Future Is Here
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krautmaster
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Doesn't taste completely schiity if it is hidden in bread etc, but to look at it, YUCK !I think Gefilte fish was the worst so called "food" I've ever experienced.
..... And, historically, I generally like (most) fish/seafood...
It is in the soil, the water, and the food. That is not something that can be undone.
On a slightly related note, has anyone else noticed how many kids don't look like kids anymore?
There was a time as I got older that college 'kids' started looking like high schoolers. As I got older they looked younger. But now the high school aged ones look like adults.
I know they are more into makeup, exercise and appearance than before but their facial structure and stance look older.
It used to be that there would be changes around 16-18 and then again around 22-24 and then around 29-31 where people would clearly look older.
We were at a mall one evening and I commented that it was odd that there were so many 20 something guys wandering around looking for trouble and my wife pointed out that they were likely just high school kids and that is what they look like now. Their face structure looked like adults.
Is it my imagination? Hormones in the food/water? Plastics in everything?
There was a time as I got older that college 'kids' started looking like high schoolers. As I got older they looked younger. But now the high school aged ones look like adults.
I know they are more into makeup, exercise and appearance than before but their facial structure and stance look older.
It used to be that there would be changes around 16-18 and then again around 22-24 and then around 29-31 where people would clearly look older.
We were at a mall one evening and I commented that it was odd that there were so many 20 something guys wandering around looking for trouble and my wife pointed out that they were likely just high school kids and that is what they look like now. Their face structure looked like adults.
Is it my imagination? Hormones in the food/water? Plastics in everything?
True, it is actually a good reason to try. Because more of the bad stuff will only make it that much worse.
It is just sad that we can't go back.
DesertRatt
All Bark, No Bite!
Endocrine disruptors.
They are everywhere now and causing havoc in children. E.g. early puberty, etc.
For some reason the talk in this thread about processed foods got me thinking about pink slime. A bit over a decade ago, it was the big story about how it was being added to ground beef as filler. I remember around the time it was really in the news that a lot of the hamburger meat got better, when cooked in a patty, the edges would nearly crumble away because they didn't have the pink slime holding it all together. It had a much better texture. Then as the story faded the meat in most places went back to the way it was. They held out as long as was necessary for our short attention spans to run out and then went back to the way things were.
To make it worse in 2018 the USDA reclassified the pink slime as 'ground beef' so stores didn't have to tell people it was even there. Of course it isn't allowed for human consumption in the EU.
And that reminded me of even farther back when we lived in a town where a local paper broke a story about a grocery store using Raid on their fruits in the store. As soon as the story came out, that store had a visible amount of fruit flies around their produce. And, interestingly, other grocery stores in town suddenly had the same fly problem at the same time. Some even put fans next to the produce, trying to blow the bugs away.
So when one got caught they all stopped spraying their fruits with who knows what type of bug spray. And as the weeks went on the bugs again disappeared from all of the produce areas. The stores just waited until people's forgot about it and went back to spraying their fruit again.
To make it worse in 2018 the USDA reclassified the pink slime as 'ground beef' so stores didn't have to tell people it was even there. Of course it isn't allowed for human consumption in the EU.
And that reminded me of even farther back when we lived in a town where a local paper broke a story about a grocery store using Raid on their fruits in the store. As soon as the story came out, that store had a visible amount of fruit flies around their produce. And, interestingly, other grocery stores in town suddenly had the same fly problem at the same time. Some even put fans next to the produce, trying to blow the bugs away.
So when one got caught they all stopped spraying their fruits with who knows what type of bug spray. And as the weeks went on the bugs again disappeared from all of the produce areas. The stores just waited until people's forgot about it and went back to spraying their fruit again.
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DesertRatt
All Bark, No Bite!
It's a good depiction of the fundamental problem with the experiment called "civilization." It replaces all Natural life knowledge with a calculus to capture someone else's benefit for your own.
This is getting a little on the edge of whats allowed here but this is where you see the conflict between profit and regulation. Profit says spray with cheap toxic stuff to get rid of bugs. Regulation says that isn't safe. Unless regulation is actively enforced, profit wins. Too much of either doesn't work though so there has to be a balance.
Quadman2
Lunatic Member
Perhaps.
But maybe a "Soylent Green" ('73) might offer a ongoing/alternative source of protein?
Q
The big step will be banning the crap the FDA allows in our food that other first world countries ban for a reason, the reason is easy, look at our population's health in general.
SoCal Sam
Lunatic Member
I've seen comments like this before. I would note with the greatest irony that life expectancy has increased from about 25 years to near 80 years since 1850. As recently as 1900, life expectancy was only 32 years. Industrial revolution has everything to do with this. We are not going back to the Stone Age.
I would be even higher if "we" didn't buy into all the ultra-processed food marketing over the last 100 yrs.
The amount of money we have spent to try to correct that damage medically over all these years is probably mind boggling.
It is very sad that so many things are still allowed that clearly harm the public.
Another serious issue is our population continues to shift towards instant gratification over anything long term. It is easy to market to the desires of now and hard to convince people to give things up now for a better later.
DesertRatt
All Bark, No Bite!
Life expectancy is a relative measure in any society for any species. First of all, it is usually stated as an average - which can provide a misleading picture. No doubt both fertility and infant mortality were higher than contemporary life, and that wildly skews the average. Then we have to wonder if 50 good years might be better than 80 mediocre years. Within the current life expectancy stats are massive amounts of chronic illness, depression, and dissatisfactions of all sorts.
Contemporary souls must also wonder: Is spending your life working as "employees" on crap we don't have a relationship with, for people we don't know, really LIVING? We are in a highly conceptualized life - unlike say, the beaver, the lion, the eagle - our animal brethren. Conceptualized in a certain way that from a distance (say, Mars) would look like a form of slavery.
I agree that we are not going back to the Stone Age voluntarily. The currently stock of humans wouldn't last a week in Nature. Not physically, or mentally adept. But, the species in it's current form is definitely doomed to extinction, now that humans can't even identify real food from toxins. Who knows - -20 generations until zero hour? The species can't survive with a 60% rate of cancer, depression, autism, diabetes, infertility, etc.
Many tied directly to highly processed food.
I am not seeing it unless we farm them. Industrial farming is killing them off. The "sign" ... 10 - 15 yrs ago I had to always clean the bugs off of windshield a couple of times a week, now I never do.
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