BrocLuno
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I just finished the pair of RS-3000's I brought back from the dead. Co-worker bought them from yard sale for $5. Got them home and only one woofer was working out of four drivers. He passed them onto me to see if I could resurrect?
One X-Over was toast with an exploded cap on the bass circuit. Both tweets and one woof were open. The cabs were good. So I started noodling. I ordered 10 uF poly caps for the bass side and some extras for other speakers projects I have going. First I tossed in a Radio Shack cap to see if I could get a signal out of bad X-Over. Got one to a test speaker, so on to next.
Got two PolyCell tweets off the Bay for $30. They are in good shape and sound good/equal. OK, that's out of the way.
Start looking for 902-2666 woof to replace the blown one - no dice. None to be had. Don't want to spend $$ on rebuild, plus whoever had it originally, must have thought they could fix the thing 'cause it had bent frame from improper removal/drop. Toss one woof. Use other for comparison sound testing.
Start getting into 4 Ohm 8" woofers & bids. Got an AudioVox laying around from the kids guitar amp. Not good match and muddy. Got an 8 Ohm Eosone for another project - no match - fuzzy/dark. Knew it would not match X-Over, but what the hey?
Email infinity for T/S params. No dice. They write back that info is never given out. Have new tweets in stock. No woofs. They have no recommended replacements. Say there are "not any likely any that will work".
Get Eosone RD-0014 off the Bay for $19 pair plus shipping. Poly cones and all. Sound OK, but not enough bass and still not quite as clear as the original. Advertised as mid-bass and it is. Nice speaker, just not a match.
Get a 8" 4 Ohm Goldwood from Part Express. It looks gorgeous - cast frame, biding posts, big motor. No dice. Good speaker, very clear and defined (recommended for other projects), but no match to the tweets in volume curve. Way to soft comparatively. Add resistance to tweets to try to match, but it's bust. Send them back.
Get a pair of HKW/Westra 8" 4 Ohm woofers off the Bay. Not the best looking speaker I ever saw. Shiny treated paper cone, slightly undersized frame. That means new mounting holes, but plenty of wood in cab for that. Sound real close to Infinity woof. Now we're getting somewhere.
Other Ak'ers start asking about possibles for their RS series that use similar woofs. Recommend this one:yes: But one more test !!!
Oh, follow Bully's advice and add front/back brace above woofer cut-out. BIG difference. More bass and more well defined too
Get Peerless 4 Ohm off the Bay for $9 pair plus shipping. I'll wait final judgment until they arrive. Came today. 101 in the shade and 98 in the shop. Oh well, let's get this done.
Pull a Westra and install Peerless. Really nice speaker. Poly cone, fits the original holes perfectly, BIG motor (I'm thinking this will blow the Westra away, and it has a pretty big mag too).
Run it up against the Westra in final A-B test. Oopps. Little old German undersized woofer is consistently slightly better.
On axis about the same. Little more refined bass from Westra and slightly more of it. Both match the tweets on volume /efficiency curve. Both sound good on axis with the Mitsubishi cranking away. Up to 3/4 throttle and still hanging in there. Tools are rattling in the shop !!!
Off axis, the treated paper cone Westra sounds better. I mean off axis by more than 45 degrees. Anywhere in front, both sound good. But the further you get to the side the less the Peerless fills the space. Peerless is a bit brighter (maybe a few %). Sort of noticeable in direct side by side testing - likely not in room with furniture and such.
OK, pull Peerless, and re-install Westra. Solder all up. Use silicone sealer around base of frame to get air tight seal. Let dry a a while and haul in the house to replace some tired original EPI 100's that need surrounds and caps.
Wife asks what these are? Tell her they are for the bedroom A/V system while I o'haul the EPIs. OK, that's cool. She helps me install under the A/V stack. Fire them up and Oh My God - WONDER :thmbsp: Dial in Direct TV Bluesville and YEAH - lets boogie
If you'all can tell me how to do the picture thing, I'll post snaps and specs in a day or so?
Right now I got true Calif Sound Infinity's running again Maybe better than new 
The detail and sound are clear clean and bass you can feel w/o any ringing or carry on AT ALL. Big bass drum is one thud right in your chest. These babies just set a new standard in this neighborhood for 2 way speakers !!!!
One X-Over was toast with an exploded cap on the bass circuit. Both tweets and one woof were open. The cabs were good. So I started noodling. I ordered 10 uF poly caps for the bass side and some extras for other speakers projects I have going. First I tossed in a Radio Shack cap to see if I could get a signal out of bad X-Over. Got one to a test speaker, so on to next.
Got two PolyCell tweets off the Bay for $30. They are in good shape and sound good/equal. OK, that's out of the way.
Start looking for 902-2666 woof to replace the blown one - no dice. None to be had. Don't want to spend $$ on rebuild, plus whoever had it originally, must have thought they could fix the thing 'cause it had bent frame from improper removal/drop. Toss one woof. Use other for comparison sound testing.
Start getting into 4 Ohm 8" woofers & bids. Got an AudioVox laying around from the kids guitar amp. Not good match and muddy. Got an 8 Ohm Eosone for another project - no match - fuzzy/dark. Knew it would not match X-Over, but what the hey?
Email infinity for T/S params. No dice. They write back that info is never given out. Have new tweets in stock. No woofs. They have no recommended replacements. Say there are "not any likely any that will work".
Get Eosone RD-0014 off the Bay for $19 pair plus shipping. Poly cones and all. Sound OK, but not enough bass and still not quite as clear as the original. Advertised as mid-bass and it is. Nice speaker, just not a match.
Get a 8" 4 Ohm Goldwood from Part Express. It looks gorgeous - cast frame, biding posts, big motor. No dice. Good speaker, very clear and defined (recommended for other projects), but no match to the tweets in volume curve. Way to soft comparatively. Add resistance to tweets to try to match, but it's bust. Send them back.
Get a pair of HKW/Westra 8" 4 Ohm woofers off the Bay. Not the best looking speaker I ever saw. Shiny treated paper cone, slightly undersized frame. That means new mounting holes, but plenty of wood in cab for that. Sound real close to Infinity woof. Now we're getting somewhere.
Other Ak'ers start asking about possibles for their RS series that use similar woofs. Recommend this one:yes: But one more test !!!
Oh, follow Bully's advice and add front/back brace above woofer cut-out. BIG difference. More bass and more well defined too
Get Peerless 4 Ohm off the Bay for $9 pair plus shipping. I'll wait final judgment until they arrive. Came today. 101 in the shade and 98 in the shop. Oh well, let's get this done.
Pull a Westra and install Peerless. Really nice speaker. Poly cone, fits the original holes perfectly, BIG motor (I'm thinking this will blow the Westra away, and it has a pretty big mag too).
Run it up against the Westra in final A-B test. Oopps. Little old German undersized woofer is consistently slightly better.
On axis about the same. Little more refined bass from Westra and slightly more of it. Both match the tweets on volume /efficiency curve. Both sound good on axis with the Mitsubishi cranking away. Up to 3/4 throttle and still hanging in there. Tools are rattling in the shop !!!
Off axis, the treated paper cone Westra sounds better. I mean off axis by more than 45 degrees. Anywhere in front, both sound good. But the further you get to the side the less the Peerless fills the space. Peerless is a bit brighter (maybe a few %). Sort of noticeable in direct side by side testing - likely not in room with furniture and such.
OK, pull Peerless, and re-install Westra. Solder all up. Use silicone sealer around base of frame to get air tight seal. Let dry a a while and haul in the house to replace some tired original EPI 100's that need surrounds and caps.
Wife asks what these are? Tell her they are for the bedroom A/V system while I o'haul the EPIs. OK, that's cool. She helps me install under the A/V stack. Fire them up and Oh My God - WONDER :thmbsp: Dial in Direct TV Bluesville and YEAH - lets boogie
If you'all can tell me how to do the picture thing, I'll post snaps and specs in a day or so?
Right now I got true Calif Sound Infinity's running again
Maybe better than new The detail and sound are clear clean and bass you can feel w/o any ringing or carry on AT ALL. Big bass drum is one thud right in your chest. These babies just set a new standard in this neighborhood for 2 way speakers !!!!
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OK, I'm being a smart ass.