Copa1934
My ears are bleeding
is magical? I can't tell you how many combinations of speakers I've run. Some just to experiment, some because I thought they would be good. Mixed results of course.
Biggest issue I've run into is bass response. Most were adequate, but with full tilt action movies most also bottomed out or tried to go beyond full excursion. The noise is quite obvious and scares the crap out of a person, mostly hoping that the speaker hasn't been permanently damaged.
The speakers I've had the best luck with were acoustic suspension. Now, I should qualify this statement. I don't like running subs. I've never cared for the delicate balancing act, setting the crossover correctly and volume correctly. Then there's position so the "sensation" isn't localized or at a particular position. Acoustic suspension has a more limiting affect on excursion, that is naturally occurring. Bass reflex (ported) have no limitations and can more easily be pushed past their design limitations.
Anyone familiar with the Pioneer "S" line know these are nice speakers. Not audiophile, but certainly not something one would normally hook up to HT systems. But recently I acquired a pair of DSS9 (further up the food chain) and have those in the man cave now, supplanting the "S" speakers. I thought "self" why not take speakers with closely matching timbre and general sonic quality and connect to the home theater system. And I did.
Now, anyone who knows the later HPM series and the "S" series and the DSS line of speakers know they have Poly Graphite cones. Brittle buggers. Not something you want to push your luck with.
So, last night watched "Transformers". Kept the lid on the volume just to play it safe. So far these are tops. Subs? When you have 12" woofers in all four corners, you don't need subs. when you have speakers that utilize the same (mids) and similar tweeters, the timbre is so close you'd need to A/B the speakers with all kinds of material to detect the sonic differences.
What this all adds up to is a very seamless surround presentation. You almost don't need the "side" speakers to fill the front to rear sound effects.
I'll obviously be putting these thru more over time since these are likely to remain in place indefinitely. In spite of playing it safe and keeping a lid on the volume I was not at all disappointed with the bass performance.
It's hard to go wrong with HT when a system is setup correctly, even with different models or even brands of speakers. But when the speakers are the same make and same lineage, that goes a long way to really upping the experience.
All in all a very excellent experience. Looking forward to more action movies.
Biggest issue I've run into is bass response. Most were adequate, but with full tilt action movies most also bottomed out or tried to go beyond full excursion. The noise is quite obvious and scares the crap out of a person, mostly hoping that the speaker hasn't been permanently damaged.
The speakers I've had the best luck with were acoustic suspension. Now, I should qualify this statement. I don't like running subs. I've never cared for the delicate balancing act, setting the crossover correctly and volume correctly. Then there's position so the "sensation" isn't localized or at a particular position. Acoustic suspension has a more limiting affect on excursion, that is naturally occurring. Bass reflex (ported) have no limitations and can more easily be pushed past their design limitations.
Anyone familiar with the Pioneer "S" line know these are nice speakers. Not audiophile, but certainly not something one would normally hook up to HT systems. But recently I acquired a pair of DSS9 (further up the food chain) and have those in the man cave now, supplanting the "S" speakers. I thought "self" why not take speakers with closely matching timbre and general sonic quality and connect to the home theater system. And I did.
Now, anyone who knows the later HPM series and the "S" series and the DSS line of speakers know they have Poly Graphite cones. Brittle buggers. Not something you want to push your luck with.
So, last night watched "Transformers". Kept the lid on the volume just to play it safe. So far these are tops. Subs? When you have 12" woofers in all four corners, you don't need subs. when you have speakers that utilize the same (mids) and similar tweeters, the timbre is so close you'd need to A/B the speakers with all kinds of material to detect the sonic differences.
What this all adds up to is a very seamless surround presentation. You almost don't need the "side" speakers to fill the front to rear sound effects.
I'll obviously be putting these thru more over time since these are likely to remain in place indefinitely. In spite of playing it safe and keeping a lid on the volume I was not at all disappointed with the bass performance.
It's hard to go wrong with HT when a system is setup correctly, even with different models or even brands of speakers. But when the speakers are the same make and same lineage, that goes a long way to really upping the experience.
All in all a very excellent experience. Looking forward to more action movies.