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Pioneer PL-112D platter removal help

HiFi'end

HiFi'end

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:sigh: I recently recieved a pioneer turntable model pl-112d and it needs a new belt. Only problem is, i can't get the platter off. i tried the same method i've used with other TTables. I don't want to lift up too hard and damage something. Also once i do get the platter off, any suggestions on an easy way to remove and clean that sticky slimey old belt thats totally wrapped in gunked on the drive motors peg thingy? Sorry, the terminology slipped my mind at the moment...
 
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Welcome HiFi, I have worked on a couple 117's, I think they're close, my platter just lifts off of the spindle. Maybe try a couple of drops of light oil on the spindle to see if it will loosen up. As for the gunk removal, denatured alcohol, or goo gone should help before trying anything more caustic. Check the Pioneer manual database to see if the manual is listed, if nothing elde, the S/M for the 117D is in there. Good luck.
 
Thanks for the tips. I lubed it up an hour ago, hopefully it will simply pull off. I'll check the service manual section as suggested.
 
I had a PL-115D, same as strawman it just lifted off the spindle. That first time off was deusey, however. :D If it has holes thru under the mat (and it should), hook your fingers through, put your thumb on the spindle and pry like crazy. Try to keep your lift even, and don't bend anything! Good luck! :thmbsp:

Be sure you clean the spindle and its receiver in the platter, should make getting it off again in the future much easier. Any oils/smoke/dust that have settled in that joint are acting as glue - I speak from experience. :smoke:
 
Here's a method that was recommended to me by Joel at the turntable factory. You need a second person. One person lifts the platter while the second taps on the spindle with a mallet or a hammer covered with a cloth so as not to damage the spindle. It should come off.
 
Thanks for all the advice. unfortunately i think i did a boo boo. I used the usual method i've used after i oiled the spindle and let it settle a bit. But the ding'dang thang was still being a stubborn b!t(-)! So i just lifted up evenly the best i could but with more authority. & then WHOOSH! the latter came off! but the spindle came off out of its socket too! Its strange and maybe its wishfull thinking, but it looks as if this is how the platter is suppose to come out, along with the spindle that is... U all think i might have ruined the turntable? It looks like it should go right back down in its hole and be alright, but i won't know for sure until i'm done cleaning this nasty goo from the old belt.
 
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I'm having the same problem as HiFi was - PL-112D with a seemingly irremovable platter. I'm wondering if you're still around HF, and if so, you had any other insights? I will try hakaplan's method if no one else has other suggestions, but hitting a TT with a hammer, even gently, makes me nervous! Thanks for your help all.
 
for future reference, if you want to try the "drip some oil by the spindle" routine, I recommend using Kroil. It "creeps" between metal components better than anything I have ever seen or used (liquid wrench, etc). Simply amazing stuff. For what its worth, it ships in a metal can and it will literally leak out of the can over time if you let it sit.
 
Looks like maybe I should give Kroil a try. I've tried using the finger holes to no avail, and I really don't want to break the tt. Thanks for the tips.
 
i'm still around if HF means HiFi'end (HiFi fiend) I had removed the platter after tedious efforts of trying to evenly pull up, and as my last post in this was the spindle popped out along with it. well after i cleaned all the goo off that was left from the old belt, for some stupid reason placed the darn platter right back on the unit again without installing the new belt., and u would think it would come off easier the second time around, ,, nope, not my kind of luck. Get someone else to help you hold the base so u can have two hands dedicated to getting the platter off. It worked quite well and the new belt went in like it should and it sounds better than i figured it could.. So get some help stablilizing the unit while u work the platter off.


I sort of used hakaplan's advice, but didn't use any hammer or mallet. Just my super fingers (:
 
A friend's pl-12 had a sticky spindle - I couldn't get the platter off by just
pulling up via the holes. But I discovered that while pulling up on the holes,
a couple of light taps with the handle end of a screwdriver did the trick. As
long as you're not pounding on it, I can't see where this technique should be
a problem.
 
The correct way is to use a mallet or hammer on the platter and not the spindle. The vibration from the hit loosens the two. Hitting the spindle is not a hot idea.
 
koltrast said:
The correct way is to use a mallet or hammer on the platter and not the spindle. The vibration from the hit loosens the two. Hitting the spindle is not a hot idea.
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Possibly, possibly not. You might be forcing the platter farther onto the spindle. I'm not talking about "hitting" the spindle, just tapping it, and while simultaneously pulling up on the platter, it will come off without any damage.
 
hakaplan said:
Possibly, possibly not. You might be forcing the platter farther onto the spindle. I'm talking about "hitting" the spindle, just tapping it, and while simultaneously pulling up on the platter, it will come off without any damage.
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I totally agree with this method. Someone posted in a similar thread about placing a washer (I recommend a fender washer) with a hole that is slightly smaller than the spindle and apply downward pressure with your thumbs while at the same time pulling up with your fingers through the finger holes of the platter. If this doesn't work then I would recommend the hammer tap as mentioned.
 
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