The Record Sticker of Doom
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Stanton681EEES
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Ya from what I've been reading the last year or so sounds like a lot of BS to me. To bad.
stackcheese
New Member
why is this a bad thing?
Stanton681EEES
Addicted Member
In theory nothing , but in the real world of vinyl for what they are suppose to be.
You get records that are badly warped, off center, pressing defects such as non fill, or deep scratches from the press, noisy vinyl etc.................
The other day someone posted on SH Forums that many places that are pressing records today are using machines that were not designed for 180 gram LPs and that this is the reason so many have problems.
beatcomber
AK Member
I see that sticker on a lot of those mysterious Scorpio reissues, which may or may not be legit reissues but are almost certainly mastered from CD resolution files.
Greyson
Super Member
180 gram records are great, when they arn't being used as the primary selling feature in some kind of lifestyle marketing hyberbole. In my personal experience there is a direct correlation between records I have purchased featuring this or other similar stickers with records that have arrived warped or with manufacturing defects. Where on the other hand, I have purchased a number of new 180 gram records with that fact advertised nowhere on the sleeve which have been outstanding.
The companies producing quality 180 gram records already know the benefits it offers and don't need to put a bunch of stickers all over the jacket to advertise it, they're not doing it to draw people in they're doing it because they care about quality.
The companies producing quality 180 gram records already know the benefits it offers and don't need to put a bunch of stickers all over the jacket to advertise it, they're not doing it to draw people in they're doing it because they care about quality.
This dubious origin of the masters is the reason I now avoid them. I did buy a few before I figured that out, but the pressings themselves are in fact very good, nice and quiet.
In particular I'm thinking of 'Cannonball's Sharpshooters'. The artwork indicates it was originally on Mercury, re-issued by JazzWax, but all of the ones I bought (at Half Priced Books) sound good.
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vinyl1
Super Member
They are legit. The Scorpio guy signed a number of contracts with major labels in the early 90s, when records were 'going away'. He pays a ludicrously small amount to the labels, and can pick whatever titles he wants.
1TUFSS
Thread Killer
I've never had a real dud 180, although one did come with a piece of flaked-off vinyl which visibly scraped the surface as I opened it for the first time... not good. They also pick up a hell of a static charge; that same flaker pulled ALL the dust off my desk as I lifted it from the platter.
spartanmanor
Lunatic Member
The 180 does not make me walk away, but I do not find it a selling point. I have yet to hear sonic improvements in heavier weight vinyl. I too guess I am lucky as I have purchased many new pressings that are 180 gram and have yet to have a problem.
I bought the latest Motorhead 180g and it was charged up like a battery -- It could drag dust across the room. And it stayed that way until I wet cleaned it. Sonically it's awful but I think that's how the CD sounds. The pressing is fine.
IMO the weight / visuals have little to do with SQ. Although a well-pressed, analog mastered 180g is a real treat.
Greyson
Super Member
Absolutely.
squirrelnest
Lunatic Member
It's a good thing....make more records.....
KentTeffeteller
Gimpus Stereophilus!
Modern records do not have anti-static compound in the vinyl formulation. Get a Anti-static gun or other static control means. European made records never used anti-static compound either.
janikphoto
Lunatic Member
I like the heavy vinyl. Of course, I don't go running to buy it, but I like the few pieces I have.
