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Best adhesive for rubber surrounds & poly cones?

twocoaster

twocoaster

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I have done several foam surround replacements with nice kits mail-ordered from "msound" via eprey. Always foam on paper cones, with great success. I now have a pair of Paradigm 3SE's that I like very much, but the rubber surrounds are separating from the translucent poly woofer cone. Can I successfully use the same glue for these materials as I used for the foam and paper? :scratch2: Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks!

tc
 
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twocoaster said:
I have done several foam surround replacements with nice kits mail-ordered from "msound" via eprey. Always foam on paper cones, with great success. I now have a pair of Paradigm 3SE's that I like very much, but the rubber surrounds are separating from the translucent poly woofer cone. Can I successfully use the same glue for these materials as I used for the foam and paper? :scratch2: Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks!

tc
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I don't know about the rubber surrounds but i have use Aleenes Tacky glue on Boston A60's (poly cone) and those have been in nearly constant use for many months in my office without issue. I don't play that system real loud though.
 
Hey Paul,

Will Seal All work for rubber to steel? The HPM-40 woofer gaskets that I just did seem to not play well with the P/E glue.
 
I repaired a loose rubber surround on a Polk S4 poly woofer using the white stuff from PE. Far as I know it's still holding, but I don't have it anymore, Fast Eddie does (or did). - Mark
 
sorry for the hiijack,
has anyone tried gorilla glue?
I've used elmers, eileens tacky, cg electronics speaker repair glue, and the stuff pe sells with their surround kits.
I think I prefer the cg electronics stuff but have been really impressed with "gorilla glue" in several other applications and see that pe's latest catalog is referencing using it as spk glue but have never tried it.
Tal
 
Hey Guys, fellow AK'er Army and I just used some Weldbond White Glue (available at any hardware store, or discount chain) to do the poly woofs on my Boston A-60's,,,,He also has used this same glue to do the surrounds on His Big Infinities with the 12" watkins woofers,,,and as I can attest from listening and looking this past weekend....That weldbond holds like a vise:) Just another suggestion anyways..
 
I use weldbond for almost everything, and have been very pleased with it. It sticks to almost anything, holds tight, damps vibrations, and yet can be peeled off of nonpourous surfaces if needed -- I have even used it to glue Decca cartridge bodies together (they are thin resonant metal) and been able to remove it when needed. Great stuff.
 
subdermis2000 said:
Hey Paul,

Will Seal All work for rubber to steel? The HPM-40 woofer gaskets that I just did seem to not play well with the P/E glue.
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Yes, and very well. It is great for disimilar materials.

I don't pretend to be an expert, but I have about 25 different adhesives on my workbench that I use almost daily. And they are all different, best suited for different purposes. I have thin, medium, thick, and gel CA glues. I have 5-minute, 15-minute, 45-minute working time epoxies. I have several different types of epoxy putty.

I have three different SBR adhesives. That is Styrene Butadiene Rubber adhesive (according to the manufacturer's rep who I spoke with on the phone). E6000 is the thickest. Aleene's Platinum Bond 7800 is a little thinner, more solvent, viscosity about like epoxy. Seal All is the thinnest, viscosity about like plastic model glue.

Gorilla Glue (I have it, too) is a polyurethane glue that expands as it hardens. It is best used for wood, and requires clamping. The expansion forces it into the pores of the wood and you can get a tremendous bond.

I have three different types of white glues (aliphatic resin glues). Three different types of stick shellac glues (pads on woodwinds). And more.

Anyway, there is no one glue good for everything, or I wouldn't have all that cluttering up my workbench. :D

There is a glue by Wilhold, RC56. It was in hobby shops, and I suppose other sources. I used it for RC model airplanes. It was great for gluing plastic canopies to "Monocote" or other iron on plastic films. It looks like white glue, but dries with a slight flexibility. Great bonding to plastics. Not as tacky as Aleene's Tacky glue. This would be good for dust caps and perhaps the gaskets, too. But the set up time is too long for working with surrounds.

Back to rubber surrounds and poly cones... I think the Seal All would be best for this. It dries very quickly, too.

About bonding and strength of SBR adhesives (E6000, Aleene's 7800, Seal All) I'd like to refer you to one of my articles:

http://www.saxgourmet.com/PaulCoatsArticles/fabrication_of_prosthetic_key.htm
 
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