120wpc+ w/ small foot print?

ducati2

ducati2

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I am considering a 70s SS receiver but have a few requirements;

1. must be 120 or above wpc
2. this is the kicker, it needs to NOT be so darn big. Most I find are near 24" long and 20" deep. I need a smaller footprint but height is not an issue.
3. price is an issue, so looking for the under appreciated, or not yet so collectable

a Kenwood 9400 has been suggested, but can't seem to find the dimensions of one, nor can I find one to buy. Any other favorites or suggestions?
 
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PM member Big Tuna. He has a 9400 for sale in Barter Town (which you can't see since you are not a subscriber). I'm sure he'd measure it for you.
 
Your power requirement will make your search a tough one. Most of the vintage receivers I've seen that had faceplate widths of 17" or so were no more than 60 WPC. Once you got beyond 100 WPC, the chassis had to grow to package larger heat sinks, filter caps and power transformer(s).
 
Probably you might consider some newer gear (if power requirements have to be met).
There are plenty of good 100 WPC+ receivers with 17" width.
 
gladiator335 said:
Probably you might consider some newer gear (if power requirements have to be met).
There are plenty of good 100 WPC+ receivers with 17" width.
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I am too old school to do such a thing! I will probably settle on either the 9090 or the kr9400 as they appear to be the same 22" width. I was just wondering if there was something more like a 18-20" width, but guess not.
 
You don't have to give up your old school preferences.
Why receiver? Why not integrated (such as Pioneer SA-9800 or SA-9900) for example and matching tuner?
They all fit 17" profile.
 
The MCS 3125 is approximately 19 1/2 inches wide by 17 inches deep and is rated at a healthy 125 WPC.
 
Put a monster receiver sideways? You could also get a 70s preamp and then stash an amp out of the way somewhere, which could be 70s or if out-of-the-way space is limited too maybe a modern pro amp or somesuch.
 
gladiator335 said:
You don't have to give up your old school preferences.
Why receiver? Why not integrated (such as Pioneer SA-9800 or SA-9900) for example and matching tuner?
They all fit 17" profile.
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I like integrated stuff, my first wife (still living w me) does not understand the expanding number of items appearing in the house. ha. So receivers make sense.
 
Bill said:
The MCS 3125 is approximately 19 1/2 inches wide by 17 inches deep and is rated at a healthy 125 WPC.
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I know nothing about mcs, but just did a search and wow! what years were these made? did they come with wood cabinets?
 
Yep, this is one of the limitations of Monster Receivers - their size. This kept my from selling more of them back in the day. Many people would buy one and then return it because they couldn't figure out how to get it into a cabinet of sufficient size to hold it safely.

Dinosaurs had a similar problem, too ;-)

Cheers,

David
 
I hate to bust anyone's bubble but MCS is the house brand for JC Penny.
BTW- I think this google thing is going to go somewhere!

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=125274
Originally Posted by Pickoid
This question has been discussed (literally) for years over at Audiokarma.org. Over time, more information has come to light. The answer is, a variety of different manufacturers made different pieces of MCS gear. The top-of-the-line receivers from the late 70's/early 80's (there are a couple of them, I think Model 3275 was the big beast) were made by Foster, who also made some of the TOTL Realistic gear for Tandy. As other have said in this thread, some of the stuff, particularly turntables, was made by Matsushita (Panasonic/Technics). There was a line of MCS separates, of which I have the tuner, that was made by NEC. There are photos floating around on the web of my exact tuner with an NEC badge on it.

I do not believe that any MCS gear was made by Trio (Kenwood), or at least I have never heard that reported before.

So there is not one blanket answer. Supposedly they spec'd out their components and had 'em made by the lowest bidder.

In the early 80s, Matsushita (National/Panasonic/Technics) made most of JCP's electronic stuff. Even the portables. The MCS line was pretty much rebadged Technics stuff, sometimes, the Japan market versions with an MCS logo.

The first MCS CD player was a Technics SL-P8 in black.

As the market got more price competitive they used Matsushita for only certain items. Hence the other mfg's came in. NEC was definitely a supplier as I saw a NEC CD player rebadged as a MCS.

Generally, pretty good build quality considering it is store brand.
 
ducati2,the kr-9400 is a pretty good size also,but fits your requirments of line 3.under appreciated.

21-15/16-w

6-9/16-h

15-9/16-d

45.4-lbs.:D
 
I have a Sherwood AD2608 Integrated Amp, it is not vintage from the 70's, but it is very small for the power it produces. it peaks at 120watts @ 8 Ohms.
 
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