Anyone have an opinion in this last belt driven Sony?

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I can have one for about 450 bucks...seems to be a good one..Sony TTS-3000 with AR arm.


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Seems pricey to me -- if everything were immaculate, I'd be more enthused, but the table looks like a belt drive modification of their early direct drive (it had a different name) table rather that a purposeful design, and doesn't look particularly well suspended or with a outstandingly massy platter. And the arm looks scruffy. I don't know enough to evaluate it confidently, but I'd hesitate and look at what else is out there -- there's plenty of competition.
 
The Sony TTS 3000 is a great turntable. I've been messing around off an on with a couple of them for the last year and am very impressed with them the more I play them. I've been using mine with the Sony PUA 237 and 287 arms. The table and arms don't get a lot hype but they should. I guess there isn't nearly as many of them around as the likes of the Thorens and SME's of the same era.

$450 would depend on the condition of the table. It should be pretty pristine for that price. Depends on what type of AR arm you talking about too. I'm not saying they aren't worth that, just that you can probably do better if you're patient.

You have to visit www.thevintageknob.org and check out the Sony vault for more information.
 
That seems like a lot of money without the better stock Sony arm of the day, which makes it fall into the realm of collectible. Maybe, just maybe, that first TT shown with the rosewood finish and better SME arm if in pristine condition.
 
You might do better with the one listed here:
http://www.audioproz.com/AP.php?Prod=Turntables

Has the PUA-286 arm but no dust cover. Haven't dealt with these folks but I did discuss this unit with the owner about 18 months ago when he had it originally listed at $180. He may be ready to start bringing the price back down by now.

You should be able to do better than $450 and get better condition to boot.
 
I agree. The Sony is a great turntable. It is rather old, being from about 1970 - 72 vintage BUT what a fine vintage that crop of Sony TTs was.

$450 seems high, especially with the AR tonearm. There is nothing wrong with that arm but it isn't good enough to command the premium.

And I would think the seller should have cleaned it up before offering it for sale.

But, like I said - it is a great table, assuming it to be mechanically and electrically sound.:banana:
 
Is that black TA an AR? Looks like an AQ 3/4/6 that I once had rather than an AR.

Think I would investigate the one absolon listed at Audio Proz.
 
danj said:
I agree. The Sony is a great turntable. It is rather old, being from about 1970 - 72 vintage BUT what a fine vintage that crop of Sony TTs was.

The TTS-3000 was launched in... 1966! Places it just beyond vintage I guess ;-)
Replaced by the direct-drive TTS-2500 in '71/72.
 
If it came with that SME arm in the photo's it might be worth $450. Unless you really love the vintage look, $450 can buy a much nicer looking and probably sounding table too.

Mike
 
axel said:
The TTS-3000 was launched in... 1966! Places it just beyond vintage I guess ;-)
Replaced by the direct-drive TTS-2500 in '71/72.


axel, any info on where the PS1800A fits into the time line? I have Orion's dates of '70 for the 1800 and '71 for the 1800A but they have been known to be wrong.
 
I have no US catalog with separates earlier than '68 and the 1800 is already in (I know it didn't have the same name in Japan but don't remember it now).

1968 vintage should be it.
 
The date code on my PS-1800 said 1968. It's a mighty fine machine with an ingenious arm return scheme. Said turntable can now be seen at Grant R. Jones's audio museum in Grants Pass, OR, along with several other vintage Sony tables.
 
danj, where is the date code? I've got S/N 80016 on my 1800A but nothing else apparent and I've been through it in detail.

You're right about the quality. Has the same drive as the PS3000 with a slightly lighter platter and a nice arm.
 
Any Sony serial number with only five digits makes its unit pre-1970 (or '71 - not sure yet).
Any s/n with six digits makes the unit post-1970 (or '71 - not sure yet).

This doesn't apply to professional RtR nor pro and high-end LD players and a few other misc. question marks.
 
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