Are winged c 6550's out of production?

slimpikkins

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I noticed price on the =C= 6550 tubes has gone up and a few places are out of stock. Did the plant shut down? They have nearly doubled in price from the last time I bought them a few years ago.

Are any of the other modern production tubes comparable to them? Anyone use them in their ARC amp instead of =C=? JJ, EH, Tong sol (those may be too fat to fit in my amp), Sovtek...Not sure if I want to spend over $600.00 for four pair of power tubes for my ARC D-115. I've only ever used the winged c tubes and this is my first and ony tube power amp I've owned. My experience is lacking when it comes to the different brands.
Thanks.
Jim
 
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No one seems to know for certain whether the factory is still in operation and, if so, whether they are still making consumer tubes. Dealers have provided conflicting statements. But if they are still making 6550Cs and other consumers tubes it seems likely to be on a smaller scale than before.
 
I noticed price on the =C= 6550 tubes has gone up and a few places are out of stock. Did the plant shut down? They have nearly doubled in price from the last time I bought them a few years ago.

Are any of the other modern production tubes comparable to them? Anyone use them in their ARC amp instead of =C=? JJ, EH, Tong sol (those may be too fat to fit in my amp), Sovtek...Not sure if I want to spend over $600.00 for four pair of power tubes for my ARC D-115. I've only ever used the winged c tubes and this is my first and ony tube power amp I've owned. My experience is lacking when it comes to the different brands.
Thanks.
Jim

I would say that JJ/Tesla would be your best bet for getting any modern tubes at a decent price that are of really decent quality.
 
And the moral of this story is, if you find something you really really like, pick up some spares while you can ...
 
Thanks guys, so I guess it's a bit of a mistory as to the =C= production. Their website seems to be running fine. Did a little more poking around and read at Upscale Audio they recomend the Tung-Sol 6550's for their Audio Research customers. I respect Kevin Deal a good bit and will ask him if those fat bottles will fit in my d-115. They look too close together to me and think the GE straight bottle types are what the amps designer had in mind. Ruby, Jj and Svetlana...anyway it's too bad about that huge price hike.
Jim
 
Ahha, this explains everything. Crap.:thumbsdn:

Forgive me but I'm not sure what mean...all my gear I bought AFTER I married is old and bought at very resonable prices. It's pretty much my only hobby, our cars are over 10years old and my wife is laid off. Retubing the amp with =C= now is more than I even paid for it...
 
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Forgive me but I'm not sure what mean...all my gear I bought AFTER I married is old and bought at very resonable prices. Retubing the amp with =C= now is more than I even paid for it...



Yeah, I have a set of VTL 225 Triode Mono Blocks that take a combined SIXTEEN 6550s. When I look at the replacement prices, it is staggering, especially for the 120 and now 150 power tubes as an alternate for 6550s and KT88s...
 
Forgive me but I'm not sure what mean...all my gear I bought AFTER I married is old and bought at very resonable prices. It's pretty much my only hobby, our cars are over 10years old and my wife is laid off. Retubing the amp with =C= now is more than I even paid for it...

Slim I don't think Jay was referring to your taste on a budget. I think it was because I saw a thread in Barter Town where he has been trying to buy a quad and might be finding it a bit difficult.
 
2) I have seen some on other forums devaluating the C as a great tube, but it is the result of faulty testing. In fact, optimizing for any tube is required for optimum performance

There are two different Winged C's being produced..Always make sure they are made in St Petersburg, Russia. The other are cheaper and are not anywhere near the quality or sonics.
 
A couple of things happened.

1) USA dollar is being phased out as being the world standard. Several countries have already bypassed the dollar when finalizing some trade agreements. Russia, China, Germany, Japan, India are some of the countries. It is just one reason the dollar has been losing value.

2) I have seen some on other forums devaluating the C as a great tube, but it is the result of faulty testing. In fact, optimizing for any tube is required for optimum performance.

3) Quality of the Cs has always been excellent from personal experience as well as others.

4) Not the first time excellent parts have been discredited, and become extinct, due to faulty testing.

Cheers.

What I find ironic about the first point you made is that China, Russia, Japan and India ALL have crap currencies that are worth diddly squat compared to the Dollar (the US, Canadian, Australian, etc.) and yet they want to try and "phase out" the Dollar as a standardized currency for being "weaker" than their currencies? Ha! I laugh at that!
The only reason for that is because of the new "bit coin" currency that these aforementioned countries are trying to adopt for online business dealings... :thumbsdn::no::nono:

I mean if you need anymore proof of what I'm saying just look at the current exchange rate values for the Japanese Yen to the U.S. Dollar, ¥1 is equal to only $0.01 USD (1 US Penny) and the Russian Ruble is only worth like $0.03 USD (3 cents on the U.S. Dollar), the Indian Rupee is only worth 2 cents in U.S. Dollars, and the Chinese Yuan is only worth 16 cents on the US Dollar.
If that isn't proof of bad currencies then I don't know what is.
The only reason why any of these currencies are even able to compete in the world is because their respective countries have hyper-inflated their currencies because they knew their currencies were pretty much worthless against the British Pound, or the Dollar or the Euro which is why they hyper-inflated their currencies so that they could compete in the world market place better, (and so that they could devalue the Dollar and the Euro and the British Pound).

Also Germany doesn't have any need to eliminate the Dollar out of global use because they rely on the Euro just like all of the other countries in Western Europe (The European Union) and with the Euro being based upon the Dollar it wouldn't make any sense for the E.U. to want to get rid of the Dollar.

If anything if such a thing was in the works the only countries that would be interested in such a thing happening would be the Eastern European nations, most of Asia, and most of the African Nations. There are still a lot of western and eastern countries that still rely on the dollar as their primary currency so it wouldn't make sense for any of those countries to get rid of the dollar as an internationally recognized currency.
 
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