Believe it or Not...

markc2

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I was in Barnes and Nobel, and went up to the CD/DVD section and what to my wondering eyes did appear would be Kind of Blue in Vinyl in it's 50th anniversary premier.

I was stunned. Off to the right there were at least 15 MORE records. I bought one just so the marketing guys might actually get some more.

It was a very strange experience.


Mark
 
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Vinyl is on the way back and has been for a few years. More and more music stores have vinyl. Both new vinyl and used vinyl. The must be a dozen place to buy new and used vinyl in the tampa bay area.
 
That's good to hear.

I was also recently shocked to walk into my local music store and found an entire row dedicated to Vinyl. A definite shock to my system and gave me somewhat a nostalgic feeling.

I was searching through the albums, and their seems to be newer bands releasing their latest albums on Vinyl. Bands such as NIN, Beastie Boys, Metallica etc. Among the new Metallica I found re-issued vinyl for Kill 'em All, Master of Puppets, Justice...I was shocked.

Although re-issues are great, I would prefer the original issue, but still...it is cool to see Vinyl making a recent appearance, I am friggin SICK of digital audio. It has no substance to it. It is a bit tough to explain, although i'm sure many here can relate, but original released vinyl such as a 1969 Zep, or a '63 Mathis has something more to it.

Kids are spoiled these days, i could get deeper into that subject, but i'll save you 3 pages of useless material. (as you can see, i'm a bit bitter)
 
I was searching through the albums, and their seems to be newer bands releasing their latest albums on Vinyl. Bands such as NIN, Beastie Boys, Metallica etc. Among the new Metallica I found re-issued vinyl for Kill 'em All, Master of Puppets, Justice...I was shocked.

I wouldn't call any of those bands new. The Beastie Boys have been together for 30 years and their first album came out in 1986. NIN's first album came out in 1989. I'm also pretty sure that every album they've had has been released on vinyl.
 
I was surprised to see a vinyl section in Ottawa Canada's CD Warehouse-mostly reissues of rock classics. They were also selling turntables-unfortunately cheap new Sonys. What kind of cartridges do these things have? Anyway, it was nice to see-certainly saves buying online and there must be a customer base for this.
 
I was surprised to see a vinyl section in Ottawa Canada's CD Warehouse-mostly reissues of rock classics. They were also selling turntables-unfortunately cheap new Sonys. What kind of cartridges do these things have? Anyway, it was nice to see-certainly saves buying online and there must be a customer base for this.


Was that the Nepean store ? How were the prices on the new LP's ? I have bought a few new release pop Lp's latley , $20 a throw and have been less than happy with the pressings. My used finds have been much better overall , at least the center hole is in the center !!! I have to venture out later today might swing by and see if they are open ?
John
 
I have the Miles Davis edition you speak of and I must say it is an exquisite pressing. I recommend getting it.
 
I have the Miles Davis edition you speak of and I must say it is an exquisite pressing. I recommend getting it.

Thanks MaxSeven, I have been keeping my eye out for KOB on LP for a while now and it's good to know this release sounds good. I would hope it's mastered from original analog sources and not from some digitized all to heck process. Anyone know?

-Cubby
 
I wouldn't call any of those bands new. The Beastie Boys have been together for 30 years and their first album came out in 1986. NIN's first album came out in 1989. I'm also pretty sure that every album they've had has been released on vinyl.

Actually, I think the Beastie Boys first release was in 1982, PollyWog Stew. Not really important, but thought I would clarify.:thmbsp:
 
A look at www.bn.com reveals they are now opening up a vinyl section like Amazon has already. They are listing more than 2,000 LPs as available now and, if you have a Barnes&Noble membership card, you can get some discounts on the prices as well as signing up for the e-newsletter that will often give you 25 and 30 percent off coupons good for anything in the online store. It looks like they are going to compete with Amazon here and offer a good bit of stuff in the online world that they won't, of course, stock in the stores. But it also means they can likely order the stuff at your local store and get it right there to you.

Richard
 
Actually, I think the Beastie Boys first release was in 1982, PollyWog Stew. Not really important, but thought I would clarify.:thmbsp:
I forgot about that one. I'll add that Paul's Boutique is being rereleased for its 20th anniversary.

Rolling Stone had a small thing about vinyl in the last issue. In 2008 vinyl sales were up 60% from 2007. That's 1.6 million copies sold for the year.
 
I have a hard time trusting re-issues. The new Quadrophenia has been remixed in some parts, not just remastered (George Lucas anyone?). And since everything now is done with computers, I can't imagine every re-release/remaster hasn't been run through a digital medium at some point in the process. Sort of defeats the purpose of vinyl imo.
 
I wouldn't call any of those bands new. The Beastie Boys have been together for 30 years and their first album came out in 1986. NIN's first album came out in 1989. I'm also pretty sure that every album they've had has been released on vinyl.


ok well, bands that i didnt expect to be releasing any of the material on vinyl, are in fact releasing their music on vinyl. I worded my post incorrectly.

newer bands were still in the section though, NERD, lil wayne, whatever...
 
I have a hard time trusting re-issues. The new Quadrophenia has been remixed in some parts, not just remastered (George Lucas anyone?). And since everything now is done with computers, I can't imagine every re-release/remaster hasn't been run through a digital medium at some point in the process. Sort of defeats the purpose of vinyl imo.

Agreed and there's always a guy with an ego that thinks he can do it better than the last guy and screws everything up.

Doug
 
Note to ARjohn; Yes, it was the Nepean store. The prices were reasonable, especially if you consider shipping costs if bought online and the exchange rate. I got the new Capitol reissue of "Pet Sounds" in mono for $30.
 
My daughter told me she could get me a miles davis, sketches of Spain for about 50-60dollars. But she told me it would take a couple of week or so. She then informed me that Towers records have a wish list. I guess they buy the record form other sources and resell.
 
That's good to hear.

I was also recently shocked to walk into my local music store and found an entire row dedicated to Vinyl. A definite shock to my system and gave me somewhat a nostalgic feeling.

I went into a CD/DVD store yesterday which has had vinyl LPs for a little over a year, and noticed that their still relatively small vinyl LP area had nearly doubled in size. :banana: They had not only the 50th anniversary edition of Kind of Blue, but also 5-10 of the 45rpm single-sided releases, plenty of jazz and oldies titles, and a whole "audiophile" section with some excellent titles, such as Jennifer Warne's Old Blue Raincoat.

The newer stuff (hip-hop/rap, techno/trance, Madonna, etc...) was a much smaller section. Nice to see, since most of the new LP releases they started with a year ago were newer releases for the "rave" type DJs.


I was searching through the albums, and their seems to be newer bands releasing their latest albums on Vinyl. Bands such as NIN, Beastie Boys, Metallica etc. Among the new Metallica I found re-issued vinyl for Kill 'em All, Master of Puppets, Justice...I was shocked.

Metallica was formed in 1981. I wouldn't exactly call them new, although they have been undergoing something of a resurgence in recent years.

Although re-issues are great, I would prefer the original issue, but still...it is cool to see Vinyl making a recent appearance, I am friggin SICK of digital audio. It has no substance to it. It is a bit tough to explain, although i'm sure many here can relate, but original released vinyl such as a 1969 Zep, or a '63 Mathis has something more to it.

Kids are spoiled these days, i could get deeper into that subject, but i'll save you 3 pages of useless material. (as you can see, i'm a bit bitter)

With you on both counts here. I'm badly torn between wanting to support the resurgence of vinyl by buying more of the re-releases, and at the same time wanting to stick to original releases, because 90 percent of the time I've been able to A/B compare them, the originals sound better, and too many of the new ones are flawed in some way. Poorer sound is my biggest complaint, although things like warping and off-center holes and bumps in the vinyl are also all-too-common.

I've taken to searching for comments online before buying any new/re-release, and if I think there is a good chance to get an original pressing, I'll often just wait until I find a good one. I'll buy a few of the new ones, but try to stick to ones that people say are excellent, or ones I'm skeptical about finding in a good-condition original.

I have a hard time trusting re-issues. The new Quadrophenia has been remixed in some parts, not just remastered (George Lucas anyone?). And since everything now is done with computers, I can't imagine every re-release/remaster hasn't been run through a digital medium at some point in the process. Sort of defeats the purpose of vinyl imo.

Agreed. I would generally prefer all-analog (AAA) releases, of course still hoping that the mastering/mixing is done well.

NOT all of the re-releases which have some digital component of production have "digital sound", though, by any means. A few of the audiophile 45rpm LP releases have some stage of digital processing, but still sound fine, at least to my ears.

In the hands of a sensitive and talented person, using the best equipment available, remastering digitally doesn't have to be the kiss of death. Unfortunately, all too often it is, and if I want digital sound, I'll just buy the CD!

As for remixing, I've heard only a handful of remixes in my entire life that I thought were as good as, or better than, the originals. Remixing is almost overwhelmingly done in the hip-hop/rap genre, too, which isn't 'my thing'. When in doubt, and especially if I don't know better, I avoid anything with the word "remix" on it. I'll consider making exceptions to this when the original artist is handling the remixing.

My latest approach to dealing with all these issues is to investigate the background and other releases of anyone named on an LP as a recording engineer. Some people know how to do things 'right' and musically; others seem to prefer to "overwork things" with too much compression, loudness, etc...
Buy the former, avoid the latter, and you at least reduce the odds of being disappointed.
 
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