Yup! That is were I use them. Most of the speakers I use in my two channel systems are older and dont have that type of connector so I just go with bare wire.
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Best affordable banana plugs? And speaker wire etc
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Yup! That is were I use them. Most of the speakers I use in my two channel systems are older and dont have that type of connector so I just go with bare wire.
Up until yesterday that was the only time I have used them. Haven’t had a HT set up for about 6 yrs now.
What you run 2chan?
Stereo mode , some of those you can still do banana or clip plugs .
Yes, the stuff in my signature is all 2ch. Like I said, for me there is no reason other than convenience for using plugs.
Roadrash
Super Member
My reason for going to banana plugs in the first place was that neither my 70s era speakers or my 70s era amps would accept the 10ga OFC wire I was using at the time. Then I just fell down a new rabbit hole with the plugs while trying to get the same sound as bare wire. It's possible but not necessarily cheap, and like I said earlier there are reasonably priced solutions such as the Furez plugs but really nice plugs get spendy real quick. I believe I've stated this before, but I'll say it anyway. DO NOT BUY FURUTECH OR WBT PLUGS OFF OF EBAY unless you can verify that you are buying from a certified dealer you will almost certainly get burned.(ask me how I know)
My reason for going to banana plugs in the first place was that neither my 70s era speakers or my 70s era amps would accept the 10ga OFC wire I was using at the time. Then I just fell down a new rabbit hole with the plugs while trying to get the same sound as bare wire. It's possible but not necessarily cheap, and like I said earlier there are reasonably priced solutions such as the Furez plugs but really nice plugs get spendy real quick. I believe I've stated this before, but I'll say it anyway. DO NOT BUY FURUTECH OR WBT PLUGS OFF OF EBAY unless you can verify that you are buying from a certified dealer you will almost certainly get burned.(ask me how I know)
How do you know?
But but it is an agenda of the usual suspects to make those that dont buy high end stuff feel like ****. It is obvious and ongoing.
It rather makes me puke that it is allowed to continue.
What’s a Zip cord is it quality for speakers ?im open to any alternative ways for speaker cord especially with good sound quality!!!
Any other stuff sold there usable ?
Monoprice has two hdmi ? Is 10 gigs fine or you need 18??
https://www.cepro.com/article/hdmi_bandwidth_speed_18gbps_30gbps_confusion
I’m confused aren’t some high end products light and high quality, and others cheap garbage ? Is this wire the same as speaker cable ?
AFAIK, zip cord and lamp cord refer to the same style of two-conductor, pull-apart, insulated wire. One conductor typically has a ridge or ridges molded into its insulation, with the other conductor's insulation is smooth. A groove in the insulation between the conductors lets them be pulled apart without compromising each conductor's individual insulation, hence the term "zip" cord. 14 ga. is just thicker than typically used for lamps, which usually use 16 ga. or 18 ga.
In my opinion, the landscape lighting wire with its stranded-copper conductors is better than the kind of clear-coated wire typically sold as speaker wire, where one conductor is copper-colored, and the other silver-colored. IME the clear insulation deteriorates over time, and sometimes the conductors turn green. The landscaping wire is described as suitable for burial in the earth, so has good-quality insulation of adequate thickness. It's quality wire, and IMO budget-conscious audiophiles could do a lot worse.
In my opinion, the landscape lighting wire with its stranded-copper conductors is better than the kind of clear-coated wire typically sold as speaker wire, where one conductor is copper-colored, and the other silver-colored. IME the clear insulation deteriorates over time, and sometimes the conductors turn green. The landscaping wire is described as suitable for burial in the earth, so has good-quality insulation of adequate thickness. It's quality wire, and IMO budget-conscious audiophiles could do a lot worse.
Its another connection point, in theory if anything it will degrade the cable. I think most have already said its a convenience more than anything. Every example you posted will work equally well.
I think this is the reason we look to be the only 2 left.
@ultumax having been in discussion with you before I was simply pointing out that it is an unnecessary expense. Unless you are swapping speakers and amps once a week like some of the members do they really serve no purpose. Even for HT use its merely a convenience, I put plugs on my HT set-up only because I moved every 3 years with the Navy otherwise it would of been straight wire.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Have we reached paralysis by analysis?
Is the OP, ulutmax getting close to pulling the trigger?
With 25 Best Banana Plugs listed, it is hard to determine which one is really best.
If you have narrowed it down and want another round of opinions on just what you have determined are in the final list of choices, let us know, we can go over those, too.
Are you just looking for some nice speaker wire and the best banana plugs to use with your system? Tough decisions. Especially when we do not know what the word affordable means to You. Many will have a different dollar amount associated with this word and the product in question. We only know the product in question, Best Banana Plugs.
Good luck with your search.
Is the OP, ulutmax getting close to pulling the trigger?
With 25 Best Banana Plugs listed, it is hard to determine which one is really best.
If you have narrowed it down and want another round of opinions on just what you have determined are in the final list of choices, let us know, we can go over those, too.
Are you just looking for some nice speaker wire and the best banana plugs to use with your system? Tough decisions. Especially when we do not know what the word affordable means to You. Many will have a different dollar amount associated with this word and the product in question. We only know the product in question, Best Banana Plugs.
Good luck with your search.
bimasta
Addicted Member
I tried "landscape lighting wire" when I was running Quad 63 electrostatics (very revealing, even minor changes). At the time I also had audiophile-correct "speaker" wire from Kimber, Linn, XLO, probably others. I heard no difference at all, except for the XLO which adds silver strands to the copper — that's a metallurgic difference, and that difference was minor.
Ultumax, it seems you've read a lot on the subject. Inevitably, some misinformation creeps in — it shows when you ask "Is this wire the same as speaker cable?" Try to forget some of that 'knowledge' — it isn't knowledge. Wire is wire — calling it "speaker cable" only fancifies it — and they all conduct electricity. Some wire is altered ('improved') slightly at the margins, and a difference might be heard, but it costs more and its benefits are still controversial.
I see questions from 'newbies' who are so influenced by reading rubbish that they think "plain wire" won't even work, or will sound hideous, or destroy their speakers, or.... Same with bananas — any of the recommendations here on AK have been tried and tested, and will be fine.
JUST STOP TELLING TRUTHS!
Just trying to help you not be slandered and belittled by those that worship at the alter of BS.
bimasta
Addicted Member
Thanks Bodyguard. Errr, Bodyblue.
The old Turkish* proverb: "If you speak the truth, best keep one foot in the stirrup."
* Variously attributed.
That’s a good idea !! Just let people do what they want , no point in starting a war of the words !!!
Banana plug !!)monoprice fine I guess ! Sebastian Shaw would be proud
Yeah
So check hardware store for these ! ? Can you get pretty thick gauges?
Does banana plug improve ease of connection or stop cable from oxidation over time ?
bimasta
Addicted Member
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
No but it doesn't matter: exposed copper oxidizes, unless sealed from air or in a vacuum.