Cambridge Audio Topaz SR10 loss of memory

RobertPS

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Hello, I bought an SR10 receiver in a thrift store but it loses it settings after turning it off. Treble, Bass, Balance and tuner presets are all gone after turning power off. In the past I have replaced gold caps in receivers but I can't find anything like that in this receiver, just ordinary capacitors. I wonder if anyone can tell me where to look, I can't find a repair manual on the internet either. It looks like a great receiver with very capable power supply and worthwhile repairing.
 
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I figured that out but where is it?

supercaps are easy to spot. they are usually 5.5v. look for oddball colors too. oddball sizes too.

use google and look at images so you know what you are looking for.

sometimes they like to hide them on the display pcb behind the faceplate i've noticed.

sometimes they are physically close to the IC it is supply voltage too.

i can't tell you exactly where it is, i don't have the unit and a screwdriver in front of me...
 
Unfortunately nothing behind the face plate…
 

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I wonder if memory energy is stored in another way in modern equipment. I can always use the transformer to replace a humming one in my Quad 405-2 power amp...
 
Bottom left corner looks like there's a processor (some QFP package, on the reverse of the PCB). Below that is an 8-pin DIP. Could that be a serial EEPROM of some sort? Could it have gone faulty?
 
Bottom left corner looks like there's a processor (some QFP package, on the reverse of the PCB). Below that is an 8-pin DIP. Could that be a serial EEPROM of some sort? Could it have gone faulty?

I was thinking of that too! Could they have used an eeprom (ic 6) to store the settings?
 

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Maybe it's not a supercap but a regular cap that is strapped next to the supply voltage of an IC or two. Can you post the schematic?
 
In this example C407 is a backup cap. See how it is a large value and has diodes to keep the voltage contained at that particular IC?


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The schematic:
 

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So there's no text description of the features, or of the test points to examine? Just the schematics? Not really what I'd call a service manual...

For debugging, I would start by examining the soldering on the EEPROM pins, at the EEPROM, and at the processor. Then, if you have a scope, monitor the SCL and SDA lines to see if it looks like the thing is being accessed, and responding to reads. Check the data sheet for the expected behaviour of the SDA line when reading and writing; especially the ACK bits, to make sure the EEPROM is responding.

Also check that the three address lines on the EEPROM are at the voltages expected; if they have allowed to float, it will change the device address, and it will not respond to read or write commands sent from the processor (which expects to see a particular hardware address, set by those pins). They should all be ground; check the lead on the package, not the soldered pin...
 
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