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Classic Infinity vs The Florida Audio Expo 2020

Newk_Yuler

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I spent much of the day yesterday (Friday, February 7, 2020) with friends at the opening day of the Florida Audio Expo in Tampa. I went expecting modern speakers have modern engineering that reflects superiority in sound. I was surprised to find that a majority of the speakers didn't sound particularly great and many sounded unimpressive. There were exceptions but not many. For example I was reassured that I like electrostatics a lot. I'm surprised that the majority of displays have made me more gratified with what I have. The classic Arnie Nudell era Infinity speakers I've appreciated for decades. Particularly the Kappas that get the most use.

To be fair I must state that many of the manufacturers were not displaying their best sounding models which seems like a mistake IMO. A big audio show should be a manufacturer's investment in an opportunity to compare your best work to a large gathering of potential customers who go expecting to experience excellence. A lot of the manufacturers displayed lesser models that IMO likely created lesser impressions than their best potential. It seemed kind of self defeating. Understanding the manufacturers' practical considerations for what they can do with travel complications and a display in a hotel room, some of which were pretty small. Many didn't use room treatments and didn't seem to put much effort to a best possible setup. They should have invested in bigger rooms and brought their big guns. It seemed as if a lot of them didn't think of it as a competition. There will be people who are shopping for speakers making the expo a real competition. Also a writer for Stereophile states this is considered a "smallish regional show." This show is suppose to be at least 50% bigger than last year's inaugural show. The attending manufacturers are just a fraction of what's available but it's still a great way to hear many current products.

I'm reasonably certain others have said classic Infinity holds up very well against modern speakers after they've been to a modern audio show. Especially when you consider the cost differences.

So... My message to you good guys in the Infinity group is that you're doing well to be satisfied with your classic Infinity speakers because IMO there's apparently no big need to sweat the majority of much more expensive modern speaker products. Many don't measure up to a reasonable investment in a set of late 1980s Infinity Kappa and many other big Nudell era Infinity models. Unless you have God's bank account and can afford to outfit your mansion with the big dogs the current speaker manufacturers produce. Also, if you have an opportunity to attend an audio show... GO!

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Aside from the simplification and guesswork being removed on cabinetry via T/S parameters and computer software, I don't know that driver tech has necessarily improved that much.

The legendary Altec Lansing 604, by any litmus a truly amazing driver, is what....60 years old??
 
I spent much of the day yesterday (Friday, February 7, 2020) with friends at the opening day of the Florida Audio Expo in Tampa. I went expecting modern speakers have modern engineering that reflects superiority in sound. I was surprised to find that a majority of the speakers didn't sound particularly great and many sounded unimpressive. There were exceptions but not many. For example I was reassured that I like electrostatics a lot. I'm surprised that the majority of displays have made me more gratified with what I have. The classic Arnie Nudell era Infinity speakers I've appreciated for decades. Particularly the Kappas that get the most use.

To be fair I must state that many of the manufacturers were not displaying their best sounding models which seems like a mistake IMO. A big audio show should be a manufacturer's investment in an opportunity to compare your best work to a large gathering of potential customers who go expecting to experience excellence. A lot of the manufacturers displayed lesser models that IMO likely created lesser impressions than their best potential. It seemed kind of self defeating. Understanding the manufacturers' practical considerations for what they can do with travel complications and a display in a hotel room, some of which were pretty small. Many didn't use room treatments and didn't seem to put much effort to a best possible setup. They should have invested in bigger rooms and brought their big guns. It seemed as if a lot of them didn't think of it as a competition. There will be people who are shopping for speakers making the expo a real competition. Also a writer for Stereophile states this is considered a "smallish regional show." This show is suppose to be at least 50% bigger than last year's inaugural show. The attending manufacturers are just a fraction of what's available but it's still a great way to hear many current products.

I'm reasonably certain others have said classic Infinity holds up very well against modern speakers after they've been to a modern audio show. Especially when you consider the cost differences.

So... My message to you good guys in the Infinity group is that you're doing well to be satisfied with your classic Infinity speakers because IMO there's apparently no big need to sweat the majority of much more expensive modern speaker products. Many don't measure up to a reasonable investment in a set of late 1980s Infinity Kappa and many other big Nudell era Infinity models. Unless you have God's bank account and can afford to outfit your mansion with the big dogs the current speaker manufacturers produce. Also, if you have an opportunity to attend an audio show... GO!

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Hope you had a chance to see The Audio Company room. AK member Gordonw would be there. They have great stuff and if they do what I know they can, you would have been impressed. IMHO
 
I just got back from spending all day Saturday at the show and I couldn’t agree with Newk-Yuler more. That was my experience last year and again this year. There were very few speakers I heard that equaled or better my Kappa 9s or even my Kappa 8s. The ones that did were 10 of thousands of dollars more than any over priced set for sale the auction site. I don’t feel it was a waste of a day as it partly re-affirmed what I suspected, you’ll have to spend a whole lot more $$$$ to equal a set of good vintage Infinitys that are well maintained and properly powered.
 
I do the same thing with my infinity’s vs the RMAF. It’s hit and miss. More misses it seems for the money. I’ll agree the electro stats have come along way. But the cost of the good ones comes with it also. If I hear a really good system at the show I always try to imagine what my K9s would sound like with the 60-80k worth of electronics. I also do that with my advent 1s and my little monitor audios that are 10 years old now. these were impressive but also I think 40k. I also like legacy and tannoy but I simply can’t afford them.

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