Dayton caps any good?

mcgarick

mcgarick

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Greetings
Does anyone here have experience with Daytons in house Cap brand for speakers??

if so..

Do you think they're as good as Solen??

I want to pull the trigger and buy some today,but wanted some feedback first.

Thanks
 
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For crossover work, I prefer the Dayton 1% or Jantzen CrossCaps over Solens. I find the Solens sound bright to my ears. YMMV.
 
Thanks Urizen,snade.

thats the kind of comments that help me make a choice. I'll skip the Solen's as these speakers are a bit bright.

Do you guys think that fancy caps make a diff?

or are standard non polarized $1.49 caps going to affect the sound the same???

I'm interested in this.
 
mcgarick said:
Do you guys think that fancy caps make a diff?

or are standard non polarized $1.49 caps going to affect the sound the same???
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I wouldn't call the Dayton, Solens or CrossCaps "fancy", if by that you mean more expensive. There are "exotic" caps out there that cost many more dollars.

I've used cheaper electrolytic caps in crossovers, but only in bass sections, because film caps wouldn't fit on the board due to their size.
 
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Dayton it's good for woofer Zobel only ,not for midrange and tweeter............. An idea about sizes....


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I used the Dayton 1% caps in my EPI 100s. They opened up the tweeter nicely. Best 15 bucks I've spent on speakers so far. As far as size goes, note that the Jantzen cap is rated for 800V, the Dayton for 250. Given the same uF value, higher voltage caps are always bigger.
 
Nearly $33 for each of those 4.7uf caps? My wallet won't let me indulge in that.

I have recapped several pairs of EPIs, and the 10uf caps, for those speakers, are almost $60, each, for Silver Z caps! For a pair of speakers that sells for much less than that, I can't justify the expense, myself. I still need budget room for binding posts and cup, resistors, surrounds, and internal wiring. The Dayton 1% caps are more than adequate, to my ears.

If I was working on a significant build, with many many dollars invested in drivers and cabs, maybe I would consider going higher on the foodchain. I know that Focal uses those Jantzens on their Grande Utopia. If you can afford the Jantzen Silver Z-cap, by all means, use them, and enjoy.
 
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I used the Dayton 1% caps in my EPI 100s. They opened up the tweeter nicely. Best 15 bucks I've spent on speakers so far. As far as size goes, note that the Jantzen cap is rated for 800V, the Dayton for 250. Given the same uF value, higher voltage caps are always bigger.
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3.3 uf and above Jantzens are rated for 250V.
 
mcgarick said:
"Dayton it's good for Zobel only "

Whats Zobel???
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Impedance Equalization Circuits, also know as Zobel circuits, are used to counteract the rising impedance of a voice coil caused by inductive reactance. This problem mainly occurs in sub woofers, because of their large coils. A Impedance Equalization circuit is usually placed after the crossover.

A Impedance Equalization Circuit is simply a capacitor (C) and a resistor (Rc) in series, in parallel with the driver.

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http://www.diyaudioandvideo.com/Calculator/ImpedEqual/Help.aspx







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I used the Dayton 5%'ers in my JBL L-100's...very nice in my opinion.

I use them in all my speaker recap jobs...

Just my two cents...
 
i've gotten superb results with Daytons in a pair of Infinity QLS1's. i'll use them again in parts of my RS1b crossovers as well.
 
I generally use Daytons as replacements for old electrolytics in crossovers.
Good caps, priced very reasonably and they are a marked improvement over the old caps.
I find them or the similarly priced Jantzen Cross caps good values and would recommend both. Give them a try; they won't break the bank if you dislike them, but ism sure you'll find them an improvement over what was in there.
 
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