Denon DP-60L
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markd51
Nyuk Nyuk
The Denon DP-60L is one of the most beautiful Tables Denon ever made IMO. The "L" designation I believe means the Arm is auto return, but the Table basically operates like a manual Table in all other regards.
Great sound, and fantastic looks, and if one can get a really nice one for reasonable $$$, run, don't walk!
Of course the cleaner the table is, the more it is worth. These are quite sophisticated Tables though, with tons of electronics within. And the Table is pushing near 30 years old, so a very important consideration, even more so than cosmetics, is that everything on the Table actually works well. Parts are now virtually non-existent. Mark
Great sound, and fantastic looks, and if one can get a really nice one for reasonable $$$, run, don't walk!
Of course the cleaner the table is, the more it is worth. These are quite sophisticated Tables though, with tons of electronics within. And the Table is pushing near 30 years old, so a very important consideration, even more so than cosmetics, is that everything on the Table actually works well. Parts are now virtually non-existent. Mark
hifi_nut
Vintage? I´m vintage!
L=Lift, the DP-60L will lift the tonearm at the end of play; everything else is manual.
Mine has occassional speed problems (speeds up) which seem to occur after it's been sitting. I even recapped the electronics to no avail.
I'd hook it up and let it run for a while to make sure the speed doesn't wander. Just look at the the strobe or play a record and listen for a speed change. It's to the order of perhaps 20% faster.
If the platter spins like a banshee try adjusting the "tape head" magnetic sensor under the platter. I use a piece of paper to adjust the gap. DON'T clean the underside; the black material is a magnetic strip for speed calibration.
Some parts are available if you hunt. I sourced a replica dust cover and a used tone arm wand (barter town for mine, ebay on occasion).
JimB
Mine has occassional speed problems (speeds up) which seem to occur after it's been sitting. I even recapped the electronics to no avail.
I'd hook it up and let it run for a while to make sure the speed doesn't wander. Just look at the the strobe or play a record and listen for a speed change. It's to the order of perhaps 20% faster.
If the platter spins like a banshee try adjusting the "tape head" magnetic sensor under the platter. I use a piece of paper to adjust the gap. DON'T clean the underside; the black material is a magnetic strip for speed calibration.
Some parts are available if you hunt. I sourced a replica dust cover and a used tone arm wand (barter town for mine, ebay on occasion).
JimB
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
It is not one of the best tables available, but if your budget can handle best then...
Are you going to use the MCA-76 moving coil phono preamplifier? Does the table come with a worn out moving coil cartridge, too?
Are you going to use the MCA-76 moving coil phono preamplifier? Does the table come with a worn out moving coil cartridge, too?
MyComa13
Active Member
The DP-60L is a very nice table, but I agree with everyone who's said to make absolutely sure it is working properly--correct speed, arm lifts at the end of play, etc. Some of these things can be adjusted/calibrated, but any problem could be a sign of a bigger (read:impossible/expensive) solution.
Does it include both arm wands and both sets of weights/weight sleeves? If so, the straight arm will work great with any number of higher compliance carts. I've found the S-arm to be kind of picky about carts mainly because I don't like to have the counterweight at the very back end of the arm. It seems to like lighter carts that are medium to low compliance.
I'm currently running a DL-300 on the S-arm and the combination sounds very good.
Does it include both arm wands and both sets of weights/weight sleeves? If so, the straight arm will work great with any number of higher compliance carts. I've found the S-arm to be kind of picky about carts mainly because I don't like to have the counterweight at the very back end of the arm. It seems to like lighter carts that are medium to low compliance.
I'm currently running a DL-300 on the S-arm and the combination sounds very good.
I would clarify, the best that a working man can afford. Like less than 500 bucks.
Now, as far as what coma was saying, I do not have a clue what about extra/spare parts. Both arm wands? Sets of sleeves and weights? I dont think so. It comes with a ortofon preamp. I have nothing. This TT comes with the amp, and one complete TT assembly. I dont think he has any docs, packaging or spare parts from original purchase. I was not aware that there should be optional accessories. I am going to get a look and listen this week.
This does come as a component of a rack system with Klipsch La Scala speakers that I am considering. I do not know the exact price for the TT but he does not want to seperate. The whole system is about 1200.00 so I figure, no more than 200-300 for TT portion. Should I not consider this unless he has some interchangeable TT components,such as weights or arms? Seems like a great deal but should I really be concerned about not getting another arm and additional weights. There is much more to this stuff than I thought. Sounds like I need to get a better idea about how a TT works and what adjustments do what to achieve the desired sound. I am feeling quite ignorant here.
Now, as far as what coma was saying, I do not have a clue what about extra/spare parts. Both arm wands? Sets of sleeves and weights? I dont think so. It comes with a ortofon preamp. I have nothing. This TT comes with the amp, and one complete TT assembly. I dont think he has any docs, packaging or spare parts from original purchase. I was not aware that there should be optional accessories. I am going to get a look and listen this week.
This does come as a component of a rack system with Klipsch La Scala speakers that I am considering. I do not know the exact price for the TT but he does not want to seperate. The whole system is about 1200.00 so I figure, no more than 200-300 for TT portion. Should I not consider this unless he has some interchangeable TT components,such as weights or arms? Seems like a great deal but should I really be concerned about not getting another arm and additional weights. There is much more to this stuff than I thought. Sounds like I need to get a better idea about how a TT works and what adjustments do what to achieve the desired sound. I am feeling quite ignorant here.
deaner33
Drew loves Thin Lizzy
Additional arm wands/weights would be considered a bonus, but not a necessity. My DP-62L came with just the straight arm. Not sure if the additional arm was an extra cost item or just got lost over the 30 years of it's life (I am definitely not the original owner).
MyComa13
Active Member
As long as it has one of the arms and the counterweight, you'll be fine. These tables originally came with a straight arm and an S-arm (arm "wands") that could be swapped out. Each of the arms had its own appropriately sized counterweight to accomodate different types of carts. You wouldn't need to hunt down the other arm wand and counterweight unless you really wanted to.
Either of the arms will work great as long as you match it up with the right cart. If it's the straight arm, go for something with a higher compliance, like a DL-301mkII or DL-304. If it's the s-arm, go for something with a lower compliance, like the DL-300 I'm using, or the DL-110/160 would work great on that arm. Of course, these are options if you want to run a Denon cart on that table. You obviously don't have to, as a ton of carts will work well on either arm and the MCA-76 head amp will allow you to run Low Output Moving Coils.
