Don't Answer "What's It Worth?" Questions

gamalot said:
Newbies are welcome to ask as far as I am concerned but there really is no set in stone answers on any of this gear. Whats a JVC worth? Absolutely nothing to me but it might be valuable to others here.
Precisely. :yes: Something's worth whatever the other guy wants to pay for it: "Whatever the market will bear." 99.9% of the time there's a thread asking how much something's worth, I just go right by it. I have no clue what anything's worth except when I go by the prices paid on that auction site. I have a rough idea of what my gear's worth, because I paid for it. But that's it.
 
gyusher said:
Am I wrong or did you not get scammed?? Looks to me like the guy tried but was unsuccessful. . . In my mind all the talk, discussions, warnings etc. must have worked. . .

Its one thing to actually get taken but quite another to avoid it especially since the guy tried. Could it be that you are pissed more because the deal has gone south??

We will never stop someone from trying to get a leg up but we sure as hell can put a stop to it before it actually happens. If we neutered the forum on the basis of what might or what could happen would also be a disservice. . .

Maybe the good out weighs the bad. . . I wonder just how many really fine pieces AK's members or future members pull from extinction because of all of our efforts on both sides of the fence??
It was an attempted scam. I've been looking for a 16.5 for months and so far no luck.
 
OvenMaster said:
I have a rough idea of what my gear's worth, because I paid for it. But that's it.

The vintage market prices by their nature are all over the map. I've (we) seen 1250s sell from 150 to over a grand. . .I have personally sold 850s for over 600 bucks and as little as 300 for one of a kind true mint pieces. I've paid from 25 bucks to over 600 bucks for 850s that you could not tell apart. . .

I've seen SX-1010s sell from 50 bucks to my high of 1000.00 for the mint one I had that EW went through in a major way. I've sold Sansui receivers and amps with the same variation in price. I think all of us have seen those extremes in just about every brand and model. . .

I have no interest in what someone might think one that I'm selling might be worth unless that person happens to be the buyer.

I have not sold near as much the last year or so because I kinda got burnt out on vintage stereo and concentrated on new or near new HT gear while upgrading my system. Still a good description, great pictures and timing have everything to do with price. I hated putting a price tag on anything I owned because that might limit what I might get at auction for the same piece.

Sometimes I was way out of line either higher or lower than what the piece actually sold for. I will tell you this however there is a huge market for true mint turn key systems. I still have a waiting list of buyers who are willing to pay top dollar for certain Pioneer Receivers in the right condition. So far I haven't seen that receiver this year. There are scoodles of daily drivers in good shape but the true one of a kind pristine pieces are getting harder and harder to find.

My point is this. . . People can ask all they want but the answers are mostly meaningless without the expertise to go with it if you expect to get that extreme money. Not many people are willing to do everything it takes to sell gear at those prices certainly the scammer is not going to carefully build a reputation that it takes to get it done. He might burn a person or two but I think we all know who has the best gear that we would be willing to pay those amounts to. . . I'm sure each one of us might know one or two sellers that we would trust to give us what we paid for.

I know I will not get burnt buying high dollar stereo gear because I do not buy anything unless I know the buyer period regardless of how much I want it or how rare it might be. I don't care if it looks absolutely perfect and everything seems in order I will not buy it unless I know the seller or unless I know someone that I trust with my life that knows that seller and also trusts him with his life.

It does not bother me in the least what help some newbie or scammer might want because at the end of the day it really means nothing. I know I'm safe in what I buy and I sure as hell know my buyer will be safe as well. Any other transaction is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
 
I've had relatively good luck collecting and with the exception of the 16.5, I've gotten everything I wanted. I've gotten stuff I wasn't looking for but knew I would want such as the ultra elusive L-09M's/L-07C combo. I wish I had the network you have to pick the nicest units so I've got to take chances answering answering ads in the usual venues and of course, the biggest unknown, ebay. Anyways, my collection is almost complete so I won't have to take too many more chances.
 
Concept 16.5?

Sam,
To borrow a line from your buddy VS, "I don't know what all of the fuss is all about".
Be patient. 16.5's abound here in NorCal. I'll look around for you, and if one appears on CL, Carl Onepixel will probably be the first to spot it. Currently, you've got better stuff to listen to that will tide you over.
I've got a 16.5 and truthfully, it's good. Real good. But, this forum alone, AK has made the dang thing larger than life!
I've got other pieces that are much better. You'll see for yourself once you get one.
 
ReEdger said:
I'll look around for you

Sam - what he said! If one comes up for offer in San Diego, I will travel anywhere in the County to inspect, audition, and pick it up for you, and travel half-way from here to the Valley (e.g., Irvine, OC) to meet up with you for delivery.

Rgds,
 
ReEdger said:
Sam,
To borrow a line from your buddy VS, "I don't know what all of the fuss is all about".

Correct, forget about a 16.5. Just because VS swoons for it doesn't make it so.

Concentrate on a Sansui :music: G-9000 instead. A G-9000 is much better in all respects.....
 
Brudha said:
Correct, forget about a 16.5. Just because VS swoons for it doesn't make it so.

Concentrate on a Sansui :music: G-9000 instead. A G-9000 is much better in all respects.....

It aint necessarily about the sonic qualities of every unit! Here at AK we simply want what we want because thats what we have our crosshairs set on.

Gary
 
gamalot said:
It aint necessarily about the sonic qualities of every unit! Here at AK we simply want what we want because thats what we have our crosshairs set on.

Gary

Gams,

You're failing to see the irony in this. You probably haven't been following me and VS yammering about the virtues and cons of selecting some other Sansui :music: (most notably a G-9700).

Just trying to turn the tables a little.......

You better just concentrate on a G-XX000 anyways.........:D
 
gamalot said:
It aint necessarily about the sonic qualities of every unit! Here at AK we simply want what we want because thats what we have our crosshairs set on.
Amen to that, brother: Even if we got in agreement that sonics are all we care about (not build quality, looks, collectability, unobtanium) - sonics only - we would still be in disagreement. This is what would happen: Thanks to AK, we would get the "top" receivers (or amps, tubes or whatever) as per, for example, the "above 100 wpc" list over at AK VSS, together. We would hook them up to a huge switcer-thingy into one pair of speakers for all of AK to audition one by one: We would still have as many opinions as amps, probably. Even if we agreed that one amp had all the others beat (fat chance!), there would always be the ones arguing that another amp would sound better with another speaker or source (or switcher-thingy).

So, as you see, it is endless, even in an perfect world, and that's what makes this so much fun!

Rgds,
 
Brudha said:
Gams,

You're failing to see the irony in this. You probably haven't been following me and VS yammering about the virtues and cons of selecting some other Sansui :music: (most notably a G-9700).

Just trying to turn the tables a little.......

You better just concentrate on a G-XX000 anyways.........:D

On the contrary Bruha, been following just fine and see your point clearly.
I just prefer to state my opinion of the stuff I know and never attempt to sway anyone to my way of thinking or hearing.
Like Njord said, for as much different stuff there is out there, there is something for us all.
My very best friend hates my pick up. He does have the exact same model and year as mine but absolutely would not have my truck because it is BLUE!
Go figure!

Gary
 
You know that once you give up on the search that they will be everywhere. . .

An old trick. . .Put a good one on eBay priced so high nobody will touch it then watch them come out of the woodwork. . .

I just sold my SVS sub. When I listed it it was the only one. . .Before it sold there were about 8 of them all priced about the same as mine.
 
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