Dynaco vs AR vs Advent ?

operaman

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I've mentioned often in these parts how fond I am of my Dynaco A-35 speakers. That said, I've always been curious about the speakers that look, at least to my eyes, similar in design from the era. Larger Advent, and the line of AR floorstanding speakers. Those of you who know them all: How do they compare in your experience?
 
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Not having ever heard those three speakers in a comparing situation, I can't have any objective opinion, but the A35 is a wonderful speaker in all respects. I had a pair for many years and tearfully regret giving them to a dear friend, who allowed his idiot son to overdrive them to their destruction.
 
I.... I am of my Dynaco A-35 speakers... I've always been curious about the speakers ... similar in design from the era. Larger Advent, and the line of AR floorstanding speakers. Those of you who know them all: How do they compare in your experience?

That's a tough ask, I'll be interested in seeing how many unbiased opinions you'll get

Usually when questions like these pop up and they seem to pop up often I often wonder how many folks out there have had all the mentioned items, let alone when they did sat down and did a comparison.

In this instance AR manufactured a lot of different speakers from that era so that's gonna make this question even harder to get an objective opinion.
 
The Dynaco A 25 (the A 35 little brother) is one of my favorite loudspeakers ever made, I also own The Advent Loudspeaker, and it's another favorite of mine.
 
That's a tough ask, I'll be interested in seeing how many unbiased opinions you'll get

Usually when questions like these pop up and they seem to pop up often I often wonder how many folks out there have had all the mentioned items, let alone when they did sat down and did a comparison.

In this instance AR manufactured a lot of different speakers from that era so that's gonna make this question even harder to get an objective opinion.
Yeah, beyond the oscilloscope or other measuring tools it's all subjective. Personal ears tell the story. That said, the A35 does all of it well.
 
I've owned Dynaco A25's and 35's, AR's from the 2 to 2ax to 3 and 3a, plus several KLH(similar). Surprisingly, never an Advent, although have wanted to. In any case, I don't think you can go wrong with any of them. Only the AR3/3a require a great deal of power to sound their best. All the others can be powered with 50-60 watts and sound great and get very loud(if that's what you want).
 
Me, personally, I think the side-by-side comparison thing is a real mind f^#* and not helpful at all. Every time I've tried to do it, I found my ears totally confuzzled. It's just a personal theory. It's like eating peanut butter, then coffee, then wine. I'm pretty sure by the time you get to the wine you have no idea what anything tastes like anymore. I'd be much happier with subjective impressions from listening to various speakers each for a good long break-in period.
 
The Dynaco A 25 (the A 35 little brother) is one of my favorite loudspeakers ever made, I also own The Advent Loudspeaker, and it's another favorite of mine.
Do you know the A35? I really mean, if so, do you really prefer the A25 to the 35?
One might expect the 35s to be a little boomier but I find the bass so organized and clean... mmmm :)
 
With a assumption or two, I can comment. I’ve had all three (assuming you mean the original advent and the ar3). What I find interesting is that these are the speakers I experimented with stacking when I used to do that kind of stuff. Stacked Advents had their own following and sounded excellent. Stacked ar3’s sounded great, but were a little heavy to lug around. Stacked Dynaco’s were the best, great sounding and easy on the back. I should mention that my Dynacos were (and are) 25’s. It was hard to find enough 35’s for a decent stack. I think the 25 must have been one of the best selling speakers ever. They showed up at fleas and tags almost regularly (or, in my case, at least six times). The AR’s had a richness that probably put them on top, but the dynacos had a simple warm clarity that was hard to beat also. The Advents had a musicality, almost a flavoring. Stacked AR3’s required a decent amp. Back then I believe I used a Sansui…I forget the exact model number…9090db..or something like that. The dynaco 25’s could run off pretty much anything. Advents…in the middle. It would be hard to choose a favorite, kind of like choosing a favorite child (In my case it was my oldest, Joe jr. great sense of humor and very easy going), or favorite pet (my black lab, Sadie. Not much of a sense of humor, but sooo easy going), or a favorite wife. (Actually easy…Barb…favorite and only…a compliment I throw her regularly). I’m going with the Dynacos. If I was this smart forty years ago, maybe my back wouldn’t be the minor disaster it is now. I don’t do much stacking anymore. Martin Logans would be difficult to balance. I’d stack my Altec VOTT’s if I could find another pair for anywhere near what I paid for my current ones. Maybe I could get that wall of sound effect like the early Dead concerts. I don’t think I came anywhere near answering your question, but it was fun talking to you.
 
I don’t think I came anywhere near answering your question, but it was fun talking to you.
You were very helpful in that you reaffirmed my love for, and partiality to, my A35s. (Not that I need every responder here to flatter my current speakers...)

I don't have much experience with stacking and I'm pretty sure it's a problem I don't need. However now you got me wondering... if ya stacked Dynacos, fro example, do they all need to be the same? What if you, I, err ... someone, stacked Dynaco A10s and A50s.. just for an exotic example..?

Stacking is, as I understand it, a "dark art", and there may be no verifiable answer to this question
 
Stacking different speakers would seem almost logical since you could match strengths and weaknesses, but in practice the speakers were more likely to fight each other. Stacking the same ones reinforced what you liked and gave the setup a more highly developed presence. You could also play little games that might widen sound stage or give you a broader sweet spot. Not all, but many expensive speakers multiplied same drivers to create depth. I don’t see how that would differ from same stacking. I haven’t done this in years. I’ve gotten old and it’s not so easy anymore. I do remember the whole topic gave some audiophiles conniptions. If you’re young and healthy, find some more 35’s and give it a try. I once had twelve individual 25’s stacked horizontally six high. Thought I died and went to heaven. If you’re going to try this, hunt up info on how you wire everything so you don’t create impedance issues.
 
At the time the speakers in question were new I thought the Dynacos far exceeded the large ARs (including the AR3) and the Advent in liveliness and clarity. That is why I bought Dynacos.

I tried stacking two pairs of A25s and thought it a waste of time and money. I think if one needs better dynamics than your speakers provide it's best to just get speakers with better dynamics.
 
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Do you know the A35? I really mean, if so, do you really prefer the A25 to the 35?
One might expect the 35s to be a little boomier but I find the bass so organized and clean... mmmm :)

I wanted the A 35, was like an A 25 with bigger bass. Roden Electric in Oak Ridge, TN was closing out their Dynakits and Eico Kits. They didn't have any A 35 left, but offered me a free pair of A 25 with the Dynakit Stereo 70 power amplifier and PAS 3-X preamplifier I bought in that closeout sale. Cost me $130. Bought with my first WATO pay when I was 9. Bought an AR XA turntable with Shure M 75 EJ on closeout from the Music Box, who delivered it to my home. That cost me another $69. Bought a closeout HH ScottKit LT 112B next week. Had a blast soldering and assembling my kits. Firing them up for the first time, and hearing pure musical satisfaction was priceless. This was in 1973.
 
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The A25 is a perennial fave. I had A35s and they did little for me, though maybe they needed to be recapped (but, in that case, why did the A25s not need it? (Actually this was also my experience of the A10, so it may just be my ears.))
This testimony doesn't actually help the OP at all, but having had ARs of all sorts and Advents of all sorts, I'd stick with the Dynaco. Hate to say it, but it might help the OP sleep at night.
 
I've mentioned often in these parts how fond I am of my Dynaco A-35 speakers. That said, I've always been curious about the speakers that look, at least to my eyes, similar in design from the era. Larger Advent, and the line of AR floorstanding speakers. Those of you who know them all: How do they compare in your experience?
I recently listened to Advent NLA’s and OLA’s literally side by side with A35’s. The A35’s sounded much better to me. There was a pair of AR2ax’s in the room as well but didn’t get to them.
 
I wanted the A 35, was like an A 25 with bigger bass. Roden Electric in Oak Ridge, TN was closing out their Dynakits and Eico Kits. They didn't have any A 35 left, but offered me a free pair of A 25 with the Dynakit Stereo 70 power amplifier and PAS 3-X preamplifier I bought in that closeout sale. Cost me $130. Bought with my first WATO pay when I was 9. Bought an AR XA turntable with Shure M 75 EJ on closeout from the Music Box, who delivered it to my home. That cost me another $69. Bought a closeout HH ScottKit LT 112B next week.
This is some audio-nostalgia nirvana right here :)
 
Kinda like comparing varieties of apples ...
Well actually there's a wide variety of Apples ..

Blueberries ??

Well, I've personally tasted at least 2 dozen varieties of blueberries, from tart to incredibly sweet and everything in between. Just sayin'. :D
 
I'm definitely noticing a trend -- people who know all three speaker brands very well seem to tell me the A35s are the best of them. Almost 9 times out of 10.

*edit: or the A25s, often when the person hasn't had the pleasure of meeting the A35 yet.
 
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