Finding remote controls for very old CD players?

[N8Nagel]

So my thrift store whoring ways have paid off (maybe?) again... After probably a ~5 year long dry spell of not finding any interesting disc spinners, I've picked up in the last few months three Magnavoxes (two working, one unrepairable), two Technics, and a Sony DVP-NS775V (primarily purchased because it's silver with a blueish white display and plays SACD) to which I'm listening now. I think all were purchased in the $10-14 range, and about half of them came with bonus CDs, some of them even good.

Thing is, I am a, erm, detail oriented individual. Even if I have all the codes worked out and my Xsight Color controls the units perfectly (as it does the Maggies, I even found lots of codes not on the factory remote for the one for which I do have it, which is super cool) I would like to have the original remote just for completeness' sake. It's a sickness.

Today I picked up two of the players I mention above (while looking for something completely different, naturally), and I find yet another one I cannot find the model number of the original remote. Usually I track down the original owner's manual and/or look for eBay sales of units "with remote and manuals" and look at the pics but I'm coming up dry here. anyone know what the part number is for the original remote for:

Technics SL-P300
Magnavox CDB560

I'd like to set up an eBay search so when one shows up cheap I can grab it, but I haven't any clue what I'm looking for, my usual ways aren't working here.

Any help?

The worst part is, I don't need these players, I have plenty of Oppos. But I have this compulsion to save old and cool stuff, especially if it has an interesting Philips or Burr-Brown DAC in it. I have this fantasy that I'll be able to pass these on to people that will appreciate them...

 

[needforspeed]

I found a Marantz here

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www.cornerstoreremote.com

 

[KeithD]

For Technics, I've found the service manual typically has the model number for the remote, but the owners manual only occasionally has it. Looks like HiFi Engine has the SM for the SL-P300. Just about any Technics remote from that era will work.

 

[N8Nagel]

I found a Marantz here

Products

TV Audio CD Player VCR DVD Blu-ray Stereo Receiver A/V Remote Control Remote Controls Sony JVC Toshiba Samsung Directv Dish Network Sylvania Swann Sungale Supersonic Yamaha Kenwood Tivo Sharp Samsung Vizio Zenith Panasonic Philips Sanyo Roku RCA Projector Polaroid Pioneer Onkyo NEC Mitsubishi...

www.cornerstoreremote.com

Thanks, that's a good resource but sadly I struck out on both units

For Technics, I've found the service manual typically has the model number for the remote, but the owners manual only occasionally has it. Looks like HiFi Engine has the SM for the SL-P300. Just about any Technics remote from that era will work.

That's usually my go to but HFE only has a 3 page "service adjustment" sheet not the full manual. Even if it doesn't list the number sometimes (e.g. Sony) they will have a picture of the remote that shows the part number printed on it, or Sony will list it as a replacement part on their web site. I'm striking out here though.

I did end up buying a paper owner's manual for a NEC S-VHS deck just so I could get the part number for the remote, but I can't do that for every piece of wayward electronics that I save :/ that one was "special" because it was near TOTL as far as anything VHS goes and I bought it for $12 at Goodwill...

 

[borchee]

Technics SL-P300
Magnavox CDB560
I have this fantasy that I'll be able to pass these on to people that will appreciate them...

1) It seems it's a SH-R42.
2) Take a look here, here and here...quite confusing and no model numbers. I guess the minimalistic one is ment for the CDP solely. Edit: this one looks like the first one.
3) No worries here!

Good luck hunting!

 

[N8Nagel]

nice. I see you are using similar methods as I was but are more successful!

As for the Maggie remote - you think that's minimalist you should see the one for my other player! It's even worse... but there are tons of codes that work as I discovered when programming my Xsight Color to control it. I know I'm weird but it just seems right to have the original remote. (checking my Informed Delivery, it appears that the remote for the Sony DVD player will be here today)

File for Philips/Magnavox CDPs:

JP1 Remotes :: File Section

Also, the Technics CDP was available in a black version? That was thoughtful of them, making it available in both black and silver to match whatever your existing stereo gear was

Edit: apparently the Technics remote was available in black and silver as well; the only one on that certain auction site is silver but in Germany and ~6x the price that I paid for the CDP... that might have to wait a while. I waited literally ~5 years to find an affordable remote for an Adcom carousel, for some reason some remotes are dirt cheap and some are typically very expensive.

 

[borchee]

you think that's minimalist you should see the one for my other player!

Talking minimalist...Revox H-Line. 'H' as in Human - the series (H5 amp, H6 tuner and H2 CDP originally and then H1 cassette deck, which was a B215 basically and later H11, H9 turntable, which was a B291 basically and H7 satellite tuner, though the satellite tuner had its own remote) was designed with only the necessary/basic amount of buttons/controls. The remotes were optional...H8 basic as the gear (H5, H2 and H6) and H208 with more features.



Perhaps this is also the case with Magnavox?

 

[N8Nagel]

Re: Magnavox, the part number is on a paper tag inside the battery compartment. I was able to find the correct number in either the owner's or service manual for the CDB 582 that I also have (4822 218 20782) and order one off eBay but haven't been able to nail down the correct number for the 560. I'm also now hitting thrift stores trying to find non-polarized power cords with a C7 connector as both the Maggie and Technics units use them and I'm rapidly depleting my junk box despite thinking I had a pretty good stash. (fortunately of all these units there's only one that's completely NFG since obviously I had to buy them untested)

I'll have to take a pic of the remote tonight, it's laughable how stripped down it is, but it is the one that apparently shipped with the thing originally. If you use JP1 remotes and have Remote Master, have a look at the file I made (link above) and you'll see that there's actually quite a few functions available, they just didn't put all the buttons on the remote.

 

[cpt_paranoia]

for some reason some remotes are dirt cheap and some are typically very expensive.

Some people think "No-one will want this random RC; I'll see if I can get a few bucks". Others will think " Someone will be desperate to find the correct RC, and I'll fleece them for as much as I can get".

I've seen secondhand shops with big boxes of random RCs being sold for a few pence...

 

[N8Nagel]

Some people think "No-one will want this random RC; I'll see if I can get a few bucks". Others will think " Someone will be desperate to find the correct RC, and I'll fleece them for as much as I can get".

I've seen secondhand shops with big boxes of random RCs being sold for a few pence...

I've bought lots of gear at thrift stores, and yes, they often have a small tote full of random remotes, but they're always either Verizon FiOS box remotes or else for off brand TVs or something. I don't know what happens to the remotes for actual desirable gear :/

 

[peterp1]

So my thrift store whoring ways have paid off (maybe?) again... After probably a ~5 year long dry spell of not finding any interesting disc spinners, I've picked up in the last few months three Magnavoxes (two working, one unrepairable), two Technics, and a Sony DVP-NS775V (primarily purchased because it's silver with a blueish white display and plays SACD) to which I'm listening now. I think all were purchased in the $10-14 range, and about half of them came with bonus CDs, some of them even good.

Thing is, I am a, erm, detail oriented individual. Even if I have all the codes worked out and my Xsight Color controls the units perfectly (as it does the Maggies, I even found lots of codes not on the factory remote for the one for which I do have it, which is super cool) I would like to have the original remote just for completeness' sake. It's a sickness.

Today I picked up two of the players I mention above (while looking for something completely different, naturally), and I find yet another one I cannot find the model number of the original remote. Usually I track down the original owner's manual and/or look for eBay sales of units "with remote and manuals" and look at the pics but I'm coming up dry here. anyone know what the part number is for the original remote for:

Technics SL-P300
Magnavox CDB560

I'd like to set up an eBay search so when one shows up cheap I can grab it, but I haven't any clue what I'm looking for, my usual ways aren't working here.

Any help?

The worst part is, I don't need these players, I have plenty of Oppos. But I have this compulsion to save old and cool stuff, especially if it has an interesting Philips or Burr-Brown DAC in it. I have this fantasy that I'll be able to pass these on to people that will appreciate them...

A few thoughts. There are companies that make replacement remotes that are very accurate for the originals for very low cost (often comparable or less expensive than used considering free shipping from Amazon). Not every model is covered, but a surprising number are available. Here is the Amazon serach for Technis SL-P300, you'll have to do additional checking to make sure your model is actually supported or compatible (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Technics+SL-P300+remote+control&crid=262VTHI08RFC4&sprefix=technics+sl-p300+remote+control,aps,317&ref=nb_sb_noss). That search gives a rough idea of the types of replacement remotes that are generally available.

Second, if you want the exact original remote -- you can often find the model number by looking at pictures of the remote itself on eBay listings -- often they have a model number printed right on them. The owners manual will sometimes list the remote model number as well. Then you can set up a search alert (though it sometimes take a while if a component is rare or old).

Another option, if you're going to be constantly rotating new-to-you equipment is to get a Harmony remote. If you have a complex system (e.g. TV, audio system, many sources, etc.), a Harmony will simplify everything (automatically change inputs, power on devices, and control everything from a single remote). If you have just a simple 2-channel system, then a Harmony may be overkill. That said, the Harmony would still allows you to type in the brand and model number of your components, and it will control it automatically. You do have to set up the Harmony on a computer, but it's pretty easy. Harmony has been discontinued by Logitech, but they have pledged continued support and the remote are available used. The Harmony 665 is a pretty good model and usually is not expensive to buy.

 

[borchee]

Another option, if you're going to be constantly rotating new-to-you equipment is to get a Harmony remote

Just a warning: Not an option, if you want to control stuff that speaks old Nokia/ITT Protocol and not RC5!...like old Revox B200 and B100 series. Logitech couldn't get the hang out of it and dropped the "support".

 

[peterp1]

Just a warning: Not an option, if you want to control stuff that speaks old Nokia/ITT Protocol and not RC5!...like old Revox B200 and B100 series. Logitech couldn't get the hang out of it and dropped the "support".

Good to know, but I'm guessing it's a pretty "nichey" (for lack of a better word) exception. I've been using them for 2 decades (both for my systems and helping many others), and haven't found anything not supported. Was Nokia/TTT broadly used?

 

[N8Nagel]

A few thoughts. There are companies that make replacement remotes that are very accurate for the originals for very low cost (often comparable or less expensive than used considering free shipping from Amazon). Not every model is covered, but a surprising number are available. Here is the Amazon serach for Technis SL-P300, you'll have to do additional checking to make sure your model is actually supported or compatible (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Technics+SL-P300+remote+control&crid=262VTHI08RFC4&sprefix=technics+sl-p300+remote+control,aps,317&ref=nb_sb_noss). That search gives a rough idea of the types of replacement remotes that are generally available.

Second, if you want the exact original remote -- you can often find the model number by looking at pictures of the remote itself on eBay listings -- often they have a model number printed right on them. The owners manual will sometimes list the remote model number as well. Then you can set up a search alert (though it sometimes take a while if a component is rare or old).

That's where I'm running into a wall. Yes, I'm looking for original remotes because it's just a thing. I see @borchee found a pic of the Technics remote showing the model number (thank you again, by the way) but I can't find similar for the Magnavox. I also can't find any free scans of either manual for the Technics (although that's a solved problem now unless I actually need the manuals for something else) and all I could find for the Magnavox was three different scans of the same German language 460/560 service manual and sadly that didn't have the remote control part number. Probably the only way I'm going to find it is if someone is selling one and takes a picture of the inside of the battery compartment.

Another option, if you're going to be constantly rotating new-to-you equipment is to get a Harmony remote. If you have a complex system (e.g. TV, audio system, many sources, etc.), a Harmony will simplify everything (automatically change inputs, power on devices, and control everything from a single remote). If you have just a simple 2-channel system, then a Harmony may be overkill. That said, the Harmony would still allows you to type in the brand and model number of your components, and it will control it automatically. You do have to set up the Harmony on a computer, but it's pretty easy. Harmony has been discontinued by Logitech, but they have pledged continued support and the remote are available used. The Harmony 665 is a pretty good model and usually is not expensive to buy.

I have one, I think it may be a 665, as well as a couple older ones although my weapon of choice is an Xsight Color, as I seem to have a habit of acquiring gear for which Logitech doesn't have the codes. I used to send the codes to them to help other users who might not want to go to the trouble of learning Remote Master and dealing with JP1 remotes but lately they've become rather surly when I've contacted them... e.g. the last set I sent them they replied and asked for the codes in Pronto Hex format not protocol/OBC so I converted them and put the data in a spreadsheet and then they complained about that I don't even know why so I just stopped. Sometimes the Harmony does work though in which case I'm able to use it to program the Xsight and all is right with the world.

Because as I say I am a "detail oriented individual" I do try to figure out all the codes for all my remote controllable equipment and post them to the JP1 forums as well as tracking them in a spreadsheet. Unfortunately I lost a lot of the older spreadsheet data I had a while back but c'est la vie. What originally got me into this was finding a Luxman TP-117 tuner/preamp at Value Village with no remote and that was actually a resounding success although I did end up buying several original remotes (one TP-117 can serve two rooms, and you can stack multiple units to share your turntable, CD player, tape deck etc. across multiple zones) however the Xsight worked great when my Luxman CD player died and I figured out how to make it work with an Oppo 95 which was cool because then I had SACD, HDCD, etc. capability seamlessly. Someday I need to set up that system again, although I don't have the matching Luxman power amp so I need to fix one of the Adcoms in my project pile.

 

[borchee]

Good to know, but I'm guessing it's a pretty "nichey" (for lack of a better word) exception. I've been using them for 2 decades (both for my systems and helping many others), and haven't found anything not supported. Was Nokia/TTT broadly used?

I don't know as I was only interested in Revox; probably not. Edit: (reffering to @N8Nagel) You might get yourself one of the Revoxes...if the DACs, or drives, are of interest to you, that is.
A nice list, should you not know of it already: https://vasiltech.narod.ru/CD-Player-DAC-Transport.htm

 

[Robint]

I have a remote which came with Magnavox CDB-582. It works with a Philips CDB-630 and a Sylvania CDB-1560 which is a re-badged Magnavox. The number inside the remote is 3104-217-21740. So I assume all the Philips/Magnavox/Sylvania models use the same remote. I have a couple more cd players which are buried maybe tomorrow I can dig them out!

 

[N8Nagel]

Here's the sad little remote that is apparently correct for the CDB 582.

 

[peterp1]

These are on the popular auction site for the the Magnavox CDB560 -- they are new but generally look "period correct"

This is apparently what the original remote looks like (from another listing of the Magnavox CDB560 with remote included). Sadly, the photo is too low res to see a model number, if there is one.

 

[N8Nagel]

I have a remote which came with Magnavox CDB-582. It works with a Philips CDB-630 and a Sylvania CDB-1560 which is a re-badged Magnavox. The number inside the remote is 3104-217-21740. So I assume all the Philips/Magnavox/Sylvania models use the same remote. I have a couple more cd players which are buried maybe tomorrow I can dig them out!

The number beginning with 4822 is the actual part number according to the literature. I appreciate your reply but I have the 582 covered, the CDB 560 uses a different remote (yes, the codes are the same, it's a OCD thing) and I cannot seem to find the number for it anywhere.

Oddly, if you look at the service manual for the 560, it does give a service part number (4822 218 20583) for the remote control, but that yields no hits on a web search.

Looking at the similar page in the service manual for the 582, it calls the remote a 4822 218 10164 which gives a similar lack of results. I cannot remember now where I found the actual part number for the remote control but it was in one of the documents either for the CDB 582 or 482 and somehow I was able to cross reference and determine they were the same.

Edit: The Philips CDD882 service manual says on the cover "Remote control is available under codeno. 4822 218 10235" I cannot for the life of me figure out how I determined that that was the same remote that the Maggie 582 used.

 

[N8Nagel]

This is apparently what the original remote looks like (from another listing of the Magnavox CDB560 with remote included). Sadly, the photo is too low res to see a model number, if there is one.

See the pic I posted of the other remote - Philips/Magnavox apparently put the part number inside the battery compartment.