FX Audio 6j1 tube preamp - a $31 wonder

I been doing DIYAUDIO for over 20 years, you should have seen my earlier projects....lol
But to me it's more about what it sounds like than what it looks like.
Charlie knocked it out of the park with this Boogie Factor !!
Great preamp for a SS amp that needs no gain.
Thanks again Charlie !

https://www.audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/1626-preamp-build.931276/
Thanks for the kind words, Robert. Your build looks great!

The Boogie Factor actually does have a bit of gain. A "passive preamp", which is just a simple volume control, has no gain but some people find that they can sound a bit flat in some systems, even though their amp can be driven to full power output.

The Boogie Factor has enough gain to bring some dynamics to the game. It also has relatively low output impedance which is what you need if you use a SS or Class D amp. The choice of a tube that has those characteristics allows for the use of a simple, low parts count, circuit.

I encourage everyone to think about giving DIY a try. It's not as difficult as it might seem. I'm still not all that skilled at building things that look good, so I embrace the funkiness. As long as they sound good, that's what counts.
 
Hello Community. I have the FX Audio Tube-01J. I swapped out the 4 large film cap with the Wima 1μF MKP4F041005D00JSSD. It’s a nice improvement. My Voskhod 6ZH1P-EV’s and RCA Jan 6AK5’s with nickel plates made the biggest improvement along with a good linear power supply.

I am considering swapping the following electrolytic caps to further optimize.:

1) Caps marked in Yellow
Presently the OEM is 6x Panasonic FR 470 μF, 16v 105c

2) Caps marked in Blue
Presently the OEM is 2 x Rubycon MHE 470 μF, 35V, 105c

I believe the 6 caps in the yellow area are in the power path and the 2 caps in the blue area are signal path.

QUESTION 1)
Ideal should the 6 caps marked in yellow be optimized for low ESR, ripple and inductance like the Nichicon UPW1C471MPD6TD?
OR would it be better to go for one more optimized for audio like the Nichicon UKA1V471MPD?

QUESTION 2)
If the 2 caps marked in Blue is in the signal path, I think ideally I would go for the UKA1V471MPD Nichicon. Also if I could increase the rated voltage from 35 V to 50 V but I I may not be able to fit an Audio Grade cap. I would have to use a low ripple version like the UPW1C471MPD6TD

In both case there are even higher performing versions but the temp would be rated at 85c vs 105c. All the ones listed above are 105c like the OEM

I am also considering swapping out the 4 small blue 0.1 μF 100v film caps with Wima MKP2D031001F00JO00.

I do realize that fx audio’s don’t use the most of the tubes but not yet ready to do a complete build unless someone made a circuit board and parts list for the 6J1 tube. Please help with any mistakes in my reasoning.

Tube-01J.jpeg
 
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Greetings.

I am considering FX-AUDIO TUBE-01, it will be feeding Vista Audio Spark v2 initially, with a view of perhaps a change to something like dual Pass ACA in the future. Am I correct that I'll be better of with FX-AUDIO TUBE-01J version with a gain switch, so that I run -6 dB initially, and switch back to 0 dB once the time for power amps comes? I am aware of 'on-wire' attenuators, will they do much the same job? Since I will not have to switch back and forth, perhaps I can indeed go that way and save some coin (the TUBE-01J is more than double the price compared to OG TUBE-01).

I have a few more questions - I have to say that I have been perusing the thread from the start and from the end, but quite honestly, the vectors have not met just yet :)

Ok, for the PSU I am thinking TeraDak with DC12V @ 1.8A, something like this:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/274990006250?hash=item4006ae7fea:g:jPsAAOSw5HRhbSYn

This won't be an overkill in terms of current, will it?

Then, the tubes. I am serious about this hobby for a full two years, and although I have not switch too much gear so far, I have come to understand that in terms of tubes I like it, well, tube-y and waaarm. Philips EF95 made in Holland (Philips by Mullard) have been recommended, what do you think of these:

https://www.m-ware.de/en/german-rad...-radio-tube-by-philips-miniwatt-19619/a-19619
https://www.m-ware.de/itemdescripti...MIgeWihOjA9gIVhud3Ch333wBzEAYYAiABEgKWofD_BwE

They seems to be quite affordable. If I understand correctly, pre-amp tubes need no matching, right?

Lastly, the topic of acoustic polarity inversion. Do I understand it correctly that I will have to switch the 'red to black' and 'black to red' on the speaker side for the cables from the Vista amp coming to the speakers?

Thank you very much in advance.
 
Greetings.

I am considering FX-AUDIO TUBE-01, it will be feeding Vista Audio Spark v2 initially, with a view of perhaps a change to something like dual Pass ACA in the future. Am I correct that I'll be better of with FX-AUDIO TUBE-01J version with a gain switch, so that I run -6 dB initially, and switch back to 0 dB once the time for power amps comes? I am aware of 'on-wire' attenuators, will they do much the same job? Since I will not have to switch back and forth, perhaps I can indeed go that way and save some coin (the TUBE-01J is more than double the price compared to OG TUBE-01).

I have a few more questions - I have to say that I have been perusing the thread from the start and from the end, but quite honestly, the vectors have not met just yet :)

Ok, for the PSU I am thinking TeraDak with DC12V @ 1.8A, something like this:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/274990006250?hash=item4006ae7fea:g:jPsAAOSw5HRhbSYn

This won't be an overkill in terms of current, will it?

Then, the tubes. I am serious about this hobby for a full two years, and although I have not switch too much gear so far, I have come to understand that in terms of tubes I like it, well, tube-y and waaarm. Philips EF95 made in Holland (Philips by Mullard) have been recommended, what do you think of these:

https://www.m-ware.de/en/german-rad...-radio-tube-by-philips-miniwatt-19619/a-19619
https://www.m-ware.de/itemdescripti...MIgeWihOjA9gIVhud3Ch333wBzEAYYAiABEgKWofD_BwE

They seems to be quite affordable. If I understand correctly, pre-amp tubes need no matching, right?

Lastly, the topic of acoustic polarity inversion. Do I understand it correctly that I will have to switch the 'red to black' and 'black to red' on the speaker side for the cables from the Vista amp coming to the speakers?

Thank you very much in advance.

You are correct except I matched the tubes in my 01J
 
Greetings.

I am considering FX-AUDIO TUBE-01, it will be feeding Vista Audio Spark v2 initially, with a view of perhaps a change to something like dual Pass ACA in the future. Am I correct that I'll be better of with FX-AUDIO TUBE-01J version with a gain switch, so that I run -6 dB initially, and switch back to 0 dB once the time for power amps comes? I am aware of 'on-wire' attenuators, will they do much the same job? Since I will not have to switch back and forth, perhaps I can indeed go that way and save some coin (the TUBE-01J is more than double the price compared to OG TUBE-01).

I have a few more questions - I have to say that I have been perusing the thread from the start and from the end, but quite honestly, the vectors have not met just yet :)

Ok, for the PSU I am thinking TeraDak with DC12V @ 1.8A, something like this:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/274990006250?hash=item4006ae7fea:g:jPsAAOSw5HRhbSYn

This won't be an overkill in terms of current, will it?

Then, the tubes. I am serious about this hobby for a full two years, and although I have not switch too much gear so far, I have come to understand that in terms of tubes I like it, well, tube-y and waaarm. Philips EF95 made in Holland (Philips by Mullard) have been recommended, what do you think of these:

https://www.m-ware.de/en/german-rad...-radio-tube-by-philips-miniwatt-19619/a-19619
https://www.m-ware.de/itemdescripti...MIgeWihOjA9gIVhud3Ch333wBzEAYYAiABEgKWofD_BwE

They seems to be quite affordable. If I understand correctly, pre-amp tubes need no matching, right?

Lastly, the topic of acoustic polarity inversion. Do I understand it correctly that I will have to switch the 'red to black' and 'black to red' on the speaker side for the cables from the Vista amp coming to the speakers?

Thank you very much in advance.

That is a lot of questions

Q on -6db switch

When the -6db switch is selected on the 01J, it adds another 10K resistor on the input. It’s helpful to reduce gain if going into an amp that is too sensitive. I use it between source and a preamp. In the end I don’t want any gain since I use the preamp for volume. If I deselect the -6db switch, I need to set the volume on the 01J to 11 o’clock. If I turn on the -6db switch, I need to set the volume on the 01J to 1 o’clock. I end up just not using it. I sometimes will play with the volume on the 01J if the source is particularly weak or strong which can happen with different sources. I made custom VU meters so I can see if the signal is weak or strong. But for the most part, 11 o’clock serves me well.

But if you are asking about the 01 vs 01J, the 01J has advantages over the 01 outside the -6db switch. It has a lot of similarities, but it is a different circuit design. This is translated from Japanese since all the marketing is there. It states, “the biggest attraction of the product is that the plate voltage is raised by the DC-DC boost circuit and draws out the original performance of the vacuum tube.” One of the complaints of these units is they don’t utilize the tube as much as it could. The 01J does that better than the 01.

Also here is a site in Japan that describes the advantages. Use chrome or a mobile browser that can translate to English
https://ameblo.jp/itazuraltuko/entry-12501746027.html

Q on the power supply

The device does not need a lot of current. Someone did a test, and I don’t think it even pulled an amp. See page 77. More amps matters if you are using the same power supply for more than one 12v device. The device only draws what it needs. As for voltage, the device can take more than 12V. It depends on the tube, but 13.3v seemed to be an ideal set point. I got an Astron RS-4A, it’s linear, has smoothing capacitors, and can be set between 12v and 14v. Unlike the amp capacity of a power supply, if the voltage is set to high, it will destroy the components. I would make sure that the TeraDak you are considering has way to set the voltage. It has more than enough amps. You may need to splice a different adapter if does not fit. The 01 and 01J uses a 5.5mm x 2.1mm tip.

Q on the tubes.

Dr ear loves the Philips Holland E95. I would love to try them too but have never been able to find them. Mullards are supposed to be very warm. Frankly most of the good tubes will have an effect that we are looking for. For me the Voskhod 6ZH1P-EV has been outstanding. So electric and punchy on the low end.

I also heard that matching is less important on preamps, but I do try to find them matched. I would think that a mismatch would produce a different level that would affect imaging. Don’t know enough but I just do since they are easy to get matched.

Here is a nice listing on tubes for our device. It was for the little dot but similar in what it does
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/little-dot-tube-amps-vacuum-tube-rolling-guide.563884/

Q on the polarity

Yes, you would just switch the red + and black – on each speaker. But I tried it and can’t hear the difference. Can’t hurt to try. But if you have a subwoofer, you will have to invert that as well. That’s trickier depending on your hookup.

Here is a test for absolute polarity. You tell me if you can hear it.

https://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_abspolarity.php
 
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That is a lot of questions

Q on -6db switch

When the -6db switch is selected on the 01J, it adds another 10K resistor on the input. It’s helpful to reduce gain if going into an amp that to sensitive. I use it between source and a preamp. In the end I don’t want any gain since I use the preamp for volume. If I deselect the -6db switch, I need to set the volume on the 01J to 11 o’clock. If I turn on the -6db switch, I need to set the volume on the 01J to 1 o’clock. I end up just not using it. I sometimes will play with the volume on the 01J if the source is particularly weak or strong which can happen with different sources. I made custom VU meters so I can see if the signal is weak or strong. But for the most part, 11 o’clock serves me well.

But if you are asking about the 01 vs 01J, the 01J has advantages over the 01 outside the -6db switch. It has a lot of similarities, but it is a different circuit design. This is translated from Japanese since all the marketing is there. It states, “the biggest attraction of the product is that the plate voltage is raised by the DC-DC boost circuit and draws out the original performance of the vacuum tube.” One of the complaints of these units is they don’t utilize the tube as much as it could. The 01J does that better than the 01.

Also here is a site in Japan that describes the advantages. Use chrome or a mobile browser that can translate to English
https://ameblo.jp/itazuraltuko/entry-12501746027.html

Q on the power supply

The device does not need a lot of current. Someone did a test, and I don’t think it even pulled an amp. See page 77. More amps matters if you are using the same power supply for more than one 12v device. The device only draws what it needs. As for voltage, the device can take more than 12V. It depends on the tube, but 13.3v seemed to be an ideal set point. I got an Astron RS-4A, it’s linear, has smoothing capacitors, and can be set between 12v and 14v. Unlike the amp capacity of a power supply, if the voltage is set to high, it will destroy the components. I would make sure that the TeraDak you are considering has way to set the voltage. It has more than enough amps. You may need to splice a different adapter if does not fit. The 01 and 01J uses a 5.5mm x 2.1mm tip.

Q on the tubes.

Dr ear loves the Philips Holland E95. I would love to try them too but have never been able to find them. Mullards are supposed to be very warm. Frankly most of the good tubes will have an effect that we are looking for. For me the Voskhod 6ZH1P-EV has been outstanding. So electric and punchy on the low end.

I also heard that matching is less important on preamps, but I do try to find them matched. I would think that a mismatch would produce a different level that would affect imaging. Don’t know enough but I just do since they are easy to get matched.

Here is a nice listing on tubes for our device. It was for the little dot but similar in what it does
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/little-dot-tube-amps-vacuum-tube-rolling-guide.563884/

Q on the polarity

Yes, you would just switch the red + and black – on each speaker. But I tried it and can’t hear the difference. Can’t hurt to try. But if you have a subwoofer, you will have to invert that as well. Thats trickier depending on your hookup.

Here is a test for absolute polarity. You tell me if you can hear it.

https://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_abspolarity.php

solid write-up, thank you!
 
Voskhod 6ZH1P-EV, Russian Voskhod tubes are way to go. It doesnt need to be expensive "HIFI power supply", practically any decent linear power supply is good enough. They are the same. You can get Mascot power supplies in Europe, in 2nd hand market for reasonable price. I paid 4€ and 20€ for my linear PSU's and sounds great. OK, they don't look as cool as "HIFI" psu...but hey my PSU is "Made in Norway" not in China, how cool is that? :)
 
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Voskhod 6ZH1P-EV, Russian Voskhod tubes are way to go. It doesnt need to be expensive "HIFI power supply", practically any decent linear power supply is good enough. They are the same. You can get Mascot power supplies in Europe, in 2nd hand market for reasonable price. I paid 4€ and 20€ for my linear PSU's and sounds great. OK, they don't look as cool as "HIFI" psu...but hey my PSU is "Made in Norway" not in China, how cool is that? :)

thanks. could you point me towards a particular model you are using? I did a quick search, and I don't see that many used offerings. also, for this kind of 'industrial' PSU with the 'screw-on DC cable posts' - I am sorry, I do not know the correct term for this - which sort of cable do I use to connect the FX-01 (with example if possible).
 
https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Compact-Bench-Power-Supply/dp/B0002JTD2K/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=Sound+Around&qid=1647797326&sr=8-10&th=1

I ordered the Pyramid unit for two of the Tube 03's I have. I also ordered these pigtails to make my life easier.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08PYWN3T7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I put crimped fork terminals on the bare ends of the pigtails and it all worked great. But bear in mind, I did this with the tube 03. They should work with the 6J1, but make sure before ordering.
I have both the 01 and 01J. Same jack
 
I bought an FX-01 from a local AKer today and am into my second LP.
My system is vinyl only, although I occasionally stream from my phone:
-AR XA turntable with Shure M55e cartridge.
-EAR circuit phono stage
-Preamp has been a modded Dyna PAS as line stage only
-Dyna ST-70 amp with original circuit
-Vandersteen 1 speakers

The FX wonder is powered by a RS 13.8v 3A or a 12v rechargeable battery. Honestly, I think it my be a tad better with the RS supply although it’s too early to say.

My initial impression of the little wonder is that it has added a warmer and fuller midrange but the overall presentation is a bit closed in, certainly with less extension on top. Less air. Dynamics seem a bit constrained. I’m being picky here because the PAS has a massive B+ supply, silver internal wire and better parts. They are very close and the FX might be better in a different system. My system is pretty warm.
I do like the stepped volume control and overall feel of the thing. It’s amazing for the price.

I’ll leave it powered up for a few days and evaluate it.
FWIW, I have the stock tubes and a set of Sylvania JAN 5654W which sound better to me.
 
I guess the 03 and some of the other brands might be considered hybrids in that there are op amps used in the tone control and volume control portions of the circuit. But if you remove the op amps, the unit still works so the actual amplification of the signal is all tube.

I bought an FX Tube-03 a couple of months ago; and the listing I bought from declared it was a hybrid. I cracked it open as I bought some better op-amps to drop in. The board pretty much looks like they imported the drawings of the NE5532 preamp/tone board and jammed it on to a PCB with a modern 6J1 layout.

I'm not sure about the Tube-01's internals. On the Tube-03 it internally has a switching supply arrangement...so sticking a linear PSU on it really doesn't get away from SMPS. It might be driving some things directly off the power feed; but the tube is going to require some boost if done with 12VDC input. If I ever find another one of these for under $30 I might buy it to rip out it's internal PSU and mod it for a full linear arrangement.

I'm also pretty sure all of these "6J1" preamps use the exact same circuit design as the original ones. They took about 20VAC and converted it to dual 30VDC rails, driving a pentode at about 60 total volts. They were clones of the Musical Fidelity X10D. I got mine from an AKer years ago in the form of the original Little Bear P5. They still sell that slightly upgraded variant (and clones) as a kit. But stuff like the Tube-01 and Tube-03 with a less "DIY kit" look have taken over.
 
The Voskhod tubes arrived and have been in for less than an hour but this thing sounds much better, much more detailed and transparent. I feel like the veil has been lifted. Gonna be even better after the tubes settle in. Great sounding line stage.

Edit: I’ve used a few PAS preamps, both stock and modified, Adcom, NAD and the like so my reference is limited. Does this sound ‘great’? I honestly don’t know but I like what I hear.
 
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Different capacitor and pin spacing on the 01J. Traces look like they're set up for variations of film capacitors. Am I good to go with the WIMA?

Never mind board revision is the same as post #4194.

Here's the present capacitor - https://www.radwell.ca/en-CA/Buy/ITW/ITW/105K250RA6
  • 105K250RA6
  • FILM CAPACITOR
  • POLYESTER
  • 250V
  • 10%
  • 1UF
  • RADIAL 15MM LS
 

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Different capacitor and pin spacing on the 01J. Traces look like they're set up for variations of film capacitors. Am I good to go with the WIMA?

Never mind board revision is the same as post #4194.

Here's the present capacitor - https://www.radwell.ca/en-CA/Buy/ITW/ITW/105K250RA6
  • 105K250RA6
  • FILM CAPACITOR
  • POLYESTER
  • 250V
  • 10%
  • 1UF
  • RADIAL 15MM LS
On the 01J, I replaced the 4 big rectangle film capacitors and 4 smaller capacitors with the following:
  • 4x Lg Film Cap WIMA MKP4F041005D00JSSD
  • 4x Sm Film Cap WIMA MKP2D031001F00JI00
Also the 4 bigger film cap in your pick that are yellow do not look OEM. Did someone do a mod before?
 
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